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post #31 of 38
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Originally Posted by fosphenytoin View Post
 
Hi Thanks for all your replies.  Much appreciated.  We decided on WB.  Because he will be flying alone from Hong Kong and does not feel comfortable about doing transfers.  With that said, Vancouver is the only choice (direct flight).  We will be staying at WB 1 week.  He leaves the following Friday and once I drop him off at the airport, I will be going to LL/Sunshine myself and spend the long weekend there.  I only can ski for 2 days there - has to fly back on Feb. 15th.  
I know I am crazy for 2 good reasons: 1) I really want to visit LL /Sunshine in winter time (as you guys said: the scenery is incredible); 2) since I bought the Mtn Collective Pass, it covers LL/Sunshine, I might as well utilize it since I am near that "neck of the woods.".  
I will hit Sunshine on Day 1 and plan out my route to "chase the sun".  As for Day 2, I may hit LL (?) - undecided.  I will avoid Norquay as I heard it is quite "steep".  

Now we've decided on destination, I need to post another thread to find out the plan to "tackle" WB.  Thank you all!


Always feels good to get the basic travel dates and flights sorted out.  You have a lucky nephew!

 

As for suggestions the week in Whistler, you might as well ask your questions in this thread.  Then no need to repeat background info.

 

Stopping by LL on the way home from Vancouver is more reasonable than only going there from the east coast for a long weekend.  That's exactly what the MCP is designed to do . . . encourage people to check out destination resorts they might otherwise overlook.

post #32 of 38
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F/U question to you folks have visited WB:  Can you advise/ recommend where we can start, where to visit subsequent days? WB is so huge and we are a bit lost as where to go first..... We plan to take the 11:30 a.m tour the 1st day there... We will stay at Crystal Lodge. My nephew asked if we can manage to ski on the 1st day from peak to peak? Do you know?  

The only big resort I've skied before was at Killington, VT. My plan of "attack" at Killington was: divided the area up and planned to hit certain area the morning, afternoon, next day..... Once I covered all the areas, then I went back to the areas / trials I liked the most, tried to visit few more times... for WB, will this work? i.e. divide and conquer?

 

Also, for safety, I plan to bring a whistler, walkie talkie and cell phone.  I heard there can be "white out" conditions at WB, I am concerned I may loss my nephew in white out condition. There are only 2 of us, do you have any advise how to best stay together and not get separated?  

post #33 of 38

You pose a lot of different questions, so I'll just answer two.  There is so much terrain at WB that you may be able to go your entire stay and not ski the same run twice.  I don't recommend this, but it might be possible. 

 

You don't ski Peak to Peak, you ride it.  It's a gondola that takes you from one mountain to the other but does not have any appreciable net gain or loss of elevation. 

 

You may ski Peak to Creek, which is completely different. On this run you start at the top of Whistler Mtn. and ski all the way to Creekside, which is a long way.  It may or may not be advisable to ski this run in its entirety because the bottom is at a low elevation and there is often bad or no snow on the run.  However, if this is a goal that he has, then you should attempt it despite the conditions, as long as there's snow and the run is open.

post #34 of 38

if this is typical snow year you should  have no problems with conditions on lower Peak to Creek in Feb. However to be sure check the snow depth as you  get on either the Whistler or Blackcomb gondola  Creekside's base will be similar as it has almost identical elevation

Much more interesting ski out on Creekside  Recommend you try it at least once.  

Should you ever wind up at Creekside after uploading closes there are also continual shuttles back to the village.. 

post #35 of 38
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F/U question to you folks have visited WB:  Can you advise/ recommend where we can start, where to visit subsequent days? WB is so huge and we are a bit lost as where to go first..... We plan to take the 11:30 a.m tour the 1st day there... We will stay at Crystal Lodge. My nephew asked if we can manage to ski on the 1st day from peak to peak? Do you know?  

The only big resort I've skied before was at Killington, VT. My plan of "attack" at Killington was: divided the area up and planned to hit certain area the morning, afternoon, next day..... Once I covered all the areas, then I went back to the areas / trials I liked the most, tried to visit few more times... for WB, will this work? i.e. divide and conquer?

 

Also, for safety, I plan to bring a whistler, walkie talkie and cell phone.  I heard there can be "white out" conditions at WB, I am concerned I may loss my nephew in white out condition. There are only 2 of us, do you have any advise how to best stay together and not get separated?  

 

Do the 11:30 tour more than once, and do it on both hills, as they're completely different.

 

As said P2P is going across the hills, so no, it's not skiable, but it's very cool. Up 475m, and 7Kl long.

 

Compared to KMart, there is absolutely NO comparison. At all. ALL the areas in VT (yes, even Stowe) can fit into Vail, and 2 Vails fit into WB, so the sense of size isn't even close. K-Mart is the traversing capital of the free world. Not so much at WB.

 

You're WAAAAYYYY into overthinking this. Go. Go to Mountain Host 11:30 soiree's. Spend 2-2.5 hours investigating the hills then come back and find what you liked. simple. Really simple.

 

White outs? Yup, all the time. Sooooo, go where they aren't maybe lower, maybe higher. Again, don't overthink it, just deal with it when you're there.

post #36 of 38
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don't overthink it, just deal with it when you're there.

Best advice yet.

post #37 of 38
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Hi Just want to thank you all for the great advice.  I just returned from WB and Banff (Sunshine and LL) today, 6 days at WB, 2 days in Banff.  My nephew enjoyed so much and he said, this is the best ski trip he's ever had.  He is very good at directions and maps, basically I followed him to different trails and explored couple blacks and many blues.  He clearly is a stronger skier than me (even though this is his 3rd ski trip, prior 2 were at Verbier in Switzerland).  

 

He did 3 day youth group lessons and I did 2 day adult lessons. The kid is smart, because he knows with my ability, he would not be able to visit many blues / blacks if he was stuck with me. So he asked me to sign him up for more day lessons so he can ski with the kids that are at his level. 

 

Our 1st day was the first time I experienced powder snow, they got 67 cm overnight and that morning, it was so crowded because everyone wanted to hit the fresh track.  The subsequent several days, we experienced various conditions within one day in one mtn: i) warm temperature and it felt like spring skiing,  ii) some rains in mid mtn and we were soaked inside out; iii) icy condition in the morning and I felt like I was skiing on ice, iv) foggy condition with poor visibility but luckily i was at a group lesson and the instructor knew exactly where we should be headed (that was the most scary day). Then the last day afternoon at WB, we had another powder dump, so we finished the WB trip on a high note.  We covered most non-black trails in Whistler, my favorite ones are: Burnt Stew and Ode to joy. 

 

I then travelled solo to LL and Sunshine, I enjoyed it also.  They have more "local" feel and it makes me feel rather "homey" (esp. at Sunshine).  I enjoyed the terrains at Sunshine because it was gentler and the views remind me of WB.  Also, the snow is powdery.  LL is icier and steeper, I felt the blues at LL is equivalent to solid black at WB.  I only got to visit the front side of LL because one chair lift to the back mtn was broken. I could have accessed it from another chair, but that requires me to go through a blue, so I decided to avoid it....  

 

Overall, after this trip, I felt more confident in my levels as I conquered my first blacks at WB (Ravens and Dave Murray downhill), did few moguls, jumped on a box (fell because I was doing a wedge). I think I am more comfortable to ski on blues and even blacks if the snow condition is good.  Definitely it was a productive trip and thank you all again for your great advice.  Much appreciated. 

post #38 of 38

Sounds like you had a good time even if Whistler was not prime.

You've certainly have impressed me by doing Whistler Lake Louise and Sunshine on the same trip, not many do that.

Come again.

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