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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

I was looking at buying a new ski in the middle of the winter last year, but long story short I bought new boots and ended up enjoying my skis a lot more. Now I'm looking at next year and looking at another pair of skis. I own a pair of Rossignol Bandit B74 in a 178 and hey are are bulletproof. They're awesome for icy days and groomers, but they are pretty sluggish and unforgiving in the trees and bumps, so I'm looking for a second ski to cover the other end of the spectrum-- Trees, glades, whatever powder I can find and occasionally the park with a friend. I'm 6'3", 180 and a upper intermediate skier. I'll be skiing most of my days next year at MRG. 

 

I have my eyes on a set of Rocker 2 100's in a 186. I've been scouring the web for a pair and I haven't found much yet- I'm looking for a sub $250 mounted pair. I think I've found a seller on ebay who has some, but I don't know yet.

 

I'm posting because there's a pair of line prophet 100's I found in a 179 for $200. I'm hesitant because I really want something in a 180 range, but I really don't know.

 

Any advice?

post #2 of 21

I've been tempted to get an eastern soft-snow tree ski too.  The ski that tempts me is the Blizzard Bushwhacker.

 

I can't speak to whether or not it is forgiving; I found every Rossi Bandit I ever skied very forgiving.  I guess it's all relative to what else is in your quiver.

post #3 of 21
The price is great, anyway -- but wait for someone who knows the skis you're asking about.

Some people like the Nordica Patron for trees & sidecountry, and I'm intrigued by their new Enforcer, which I've skied in a length too short for me -- great ski even so. Blister loves it just about everywhere other than ice, everywhere you mentioned, and I can attest to it being super quick for a 100mm ski.

But you won't get it for $200.
post #4 of 21

I think at your weight and for your intended use, I would go with the 179, unless the prophets are also rockered.

post #5 of 21
You'd probably be happier with the shorter Prophets given the omnipresent bumps and tight trees at MRG. Not as many runs where you can open it up, such as Whiteface or Cannon.
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
The prophets don't seem to be going anywhere, I may wait a bit more. There are some deals in the pipeline, no sense in rushing in.
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
 

I've been tempted to get an eastern soft-snow tree ski too.  The ski that tempts me is the Blizzard Bushwhacker.

 

I can't speak to whether or not it is forgiving; I found every Rossi Bandit I ever skied very forgiving.  I guess it's all relative to what else is in your quiver.

 

 

Ghost -- I'm selling my BBWs.   173 length with Marker Griffon bindings.  Interested?
post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 

I decided not to go for the prophets. The bases looked like they were used as a rock ski, just not right for me.

 

I'm really gunning for a pair of rocker2 100's. The skis just seem to be exactly what I want- playful, quick, and a bit more flotation. Ebay crapped out on me in the last minute of a auction for a demo pair, the winner got them for $77.

 

However, I haven't seen a deal like that for two weeks now, and I stumbled upon a pair of 2013 rocker2 108's for $300. Maybe it's just me, but 108 seems just a bit too big. I would gain the honeycomb tip and tail, at the expense of about a half a pound per ski.

 

Go for it? Wait for another deal on the 100's? 

post #9 of 21

108 seems fine to me. That said, I like Volkl Shiros (119) just fine on soft days, and just some Nunataq's (108) as a backcountry ski. He who shall not be named liked Nordica Patrons for woods, which are something like 113. I've also spent a lot of time in the woods on Scott P4s, also 108.

post #10 of 21

I don't think 108 is too wide if it's a soft snow ski.  My general 2-ski setup for the East is 67mm and 105mm.  If it's ice, then skinny.  If it's a rare soft day, then fat.  BOOM, done.

 

108 for trees is great, provided the length isn't too long, and the ski radius is turny enough.  Heck, I've taken Volkl Gotama, 170 length @ 107mm in the trees and had a blast (which is short for my 6'2" frame, but who cares, they worked for my demo fun!)

post #11 of 21

I concur with the consensus. I home base at Stowe, and my quiver currently consists of a 99 underfoot @ 166cm (non rocker), a 105 @ 181cm (full rocker), and a 118 @ 179cm (rocker/camber/rocker). I'll be replacing the 99 with a 96 @ 172 or 178 (tip rocker/camber) for this season, but I'm easily comfortable on all three skis in most of the conditions you'll be skiing in at MRG. 

 

Edit: (my avatar was taken on Paradise at MRG, skiing on the 99's)

post #12 of 21

The Nordica Soul Rider is a great inexpensive ski that I love in the trees bumps and fresh snow. I ski it at Killington and have a ball. I dont think the model has changed in the last few years and can be had for a very cheap price. I am 6'1 185lb and ski the 185cm length. Love the old graphics!

post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Gunnerbob View Post
 

I don't think 108 is too wide if it's a soft snow ski.  My general 2-ski setup for the East is 67mm and 105mm.  If it's ice, then skinny.  If it's a rare soft day, then fat.  BOOM, done.

 

108 for trees is great, provided the length isn't too long, and the ski radius is turny enough.  Heck, I've taken Volkl Gotama, 170 length @ 107mm in the trees and had a blast (which is short for my 6'2" frame, but who cares, they worked for my demo fun!)

 

I'll still be running with my 74's on ice days. Sounds like a good setup.

 

 

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Originally Posted by freeski919 View Post
 

I concur with the consensus. I home base at Stowe, and my quiver currently consists of a 99 underfoot @ 166cm (non rocker), a 105 @ 181cm (full rocker), and a 118 @ 179cm (rocker/camber/rocker). I'll be replacing the 99 with a 96 @ 172 or 178 (tip rocker/camber) for this season, but I'm easily comfortable on all three skis in most of the conditions you'll be skiing in at MRG. 

 

Edit: (my avatar was taken on Paradise at MRG, skiing on the 99's)

 

I hit Paradise on one of the nicest days at MRG last year, also my first skiing there. It was sick, never skied anything like it before or since-- huge, soft bumps on a pretty decent slope. Awesome all around.

 
I found some super cheap 120 full rocker skis and cheap 105's rocker/camber/rocker, both with marker dukes on ebay. I may just end up buying both of those, skiing them both and selling my least favorite at the end of the year. (Names redacted as to keep bidding low ;) )
post #14 of 21

Something like a K2 Shredditor 102, Atomic Theory (or Blog if it is still around) would be on my list for a low-cost, playful 100-110, tight turn radius tree ski.

post #15 of 21

Anyone interested in a pair of Elan Spectrum Alu 105? I hav a pair that only had 10 days in it. 

post #16 of 21

Another nice option if you want a new ski is the Nordica Vagabond. Favorable reviews around from folks like @Philpug.  You can get a 2014 blem from StartHaus for $199 in 177cm: http://starthaus.com/2014-nordica-vagabond-ski-blem.html . 107 underfoot, reasonably lightweight, tip rocker and a bit of tail rocker.  

 

I know 177 sounds short, but these run long. I compared my 177 El Capo (same mold/ski as the Vagabond but with 2 sheets of metal) with my 179 Prophet 100. The El Capo was easily 2cms longer. 

post #17 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jmeb View Post
 

Something like a K2 Shredditor 102, Atomic Theory (or Blog if it is still around) would be on my list for a low-cost, playful 100-110, tight turn radius tree ski.

 

Damn, I checked out those skis and they look perfect. I may hold out for a deal on one of those.

post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 

I'm guessing in the 180 range for a the shreditor/blog/theory?

post #19 of 21

Both the Blog and Theory have tip and tail rocker, so you should be looking for one around 185.  I don't know about the Shredditor but am guessing the same thing applies to it.  I'm only 5'7", 145 pounds and my new soft snow skis this season are 184cm ON3P Billy Goats.

post #20 of 21

+1 to @mtcyclist . I 6'2" / 170lb and have an older version of the Blog in 185. In no way is it too much ski. Very lively and playful ski in the trees out west.  Really fun in soft snow, but not bad on the groomed either. Older models had a relatively soft tail (not sure if this got stiffened up later). Because of that, and because I've destroyed their bases beyond recognition, they've been demoted to early season rock duty. 

post #21 of 21

Go over to TGR and look at the Rossi S3s that PlayItLeo has for sale.  Pretty much worthless on hardpack but great tree and east coast powder skis.  For reference, I ski almost exclusively at Magic inbounds and lots of SoVT backcountry and these are my soft snow skis.  They are great in tight trees because they are so light and easy to turn.  Lots of rocker and plenty underfoot for what we see.

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