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post #61 of 80
I didn't have time to read the entire thread, but I will totally vouch for the Fischer Motives. I have skied on the Motive 80's the past two seasons (around 35 days maybe) and they are a totally dynamite ski. They made me into a better skier much more quickly than I was progressing previously. The metal in them is actually a plus for me. It makes then incredibly stable at speed on hard pack, crud, and pretty much anything but moderate to deep powder. They are a bit damp compared to a ski without metal, but I really like that.

I just purchased a set of Fischer Big Stix 100mm but I have yet to ski on them. I will probably still use the Motives as my go-to set. FWIW, they do feel like they ski a bit short for their size. I have the 168s and they turn in the trees really well.

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post #62 of 80
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Originally Posted by macvangelist View Post

I didn't have time to read the entire thread, but I will totally vouch for the Fischer Motives. I have skied on the Motive 80's the past two seasons (around 35 days maybe) and they are a totally dynamite ski. They made me into a better skier much more quickly than I was progressing previously. The metal in them is actually a plus for me. It makes then incredibly stable at speed on hard pack, crud, and pretty much anything but moderate to deep powder. They are a bit damp compared to a ski without metal, but I really like that.

I just purchased a set of Fischer Big Stix 100mm but I have yet to ski on them. I will probably still use the Motives as my go-to set. FWIW, they do feel like they ski a bit short for their size. I have the 168s and they turn in the trees really well.


Thanks for chiming in! Care to share your personal stats? (Height, weight.)

post #63 of 80
Sure. I'm 5'10" and around 180lbs.
post #64 of 80
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Thanks @macvangelist, that kind of confirms my concern that they might be a bit too much ski for me at 5'5' 127 or so pounds. Even in a 161.

 

Oh if only I could demo them.

post #65 of 80
I think you would be ok. My buddy bought the same skis in the 168 length. He is about 5'9" but only around 160lbs. He didn't have an ounce of concern about the skis being too much for his weight. Honestly, they ski pretty short. The 161's are probably going to ski more like 155-158cm.
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I think you would be ok. My buddy bought the same skis in the 168 length. He is about 5'9" but only around 160lbs. He didn't have an ounce of concern about the skis being too much for his weight. Honestly, they ski pretty short. The 161's are probably going to ski more like 155-158cm.

 

 

Well, I'd just say, "typical regular guy comment." When you weigh in the 120s, "only" 160lbs is misleading suasion. As much difference between 200 and 160 as between 160 and 120.

post #67 of 80
At 5'10" and 145 I found the Motive 86 at 175 to be a near perfect balance of stable and nimble, FWIW. It doesn't feel at all like a heavy ski or a lot of effort to ski,

The other thing about Fischers in general is kind of hard to describe, but I recall Dawgcatching writing in a review about a feeling of confidence when skiing them. I found that as well, and maybe that's a helpful, if somewhat elusively vague description, given that you've mentioned a few times your concerns with coming back from an injury.

I invite you to trust that you are the right person, in the right place, at the right time, to learn what you need to and make wise decisions.

Regardless of your choice of ski, I wish that you have a fun and therapeutically rewarding first day back on the slopes sometime later this year. If I make a trip to visit my GF's family in SLC and Cache Valley I'd love to spend some time at Snowbasin with you. Or Powder Mt. Or both.

Sorry for the drive-by therapy hijack, we now return you to your regular Epic programming.
post #68 of 80
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Well, I'd just say, "typical regular guy comment." When you weigh in the 120s, "only" 160lbs is misleading suasion. As much difference between 200 and 160 as between 160 and 120.

No need to get dramatic about it. I understand your point, but she is talking about a shorter ski length. A ski at 161ish that skis like a 158ish length isn't outlandish for someone in her height/weight range. Just wanted to make the point that I know skiers of different ranges of height/weight that ski motives and none have felt the ski was too much for them. To the OP--go with your gut, but I honestly think you would be happy and confident on the 161cm version of the motive 86!
post #69 of 80
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Well, I'd just say, "typical regular guy comment." When you weigh in the 120s, "only" 160lbs is misleading suasion. As much difference between 200 and 160 as between 160 and 120.

No need to get dramatic about it. I understand your point, but she is talking about a shorter ski length. A ski at 161ish that skis like a 158ish length isn't outlandish for someone in her height/weight range. Just wanted to make the point that I know skiers of different ranges of height/weight that ski motives and none have felt the ski was too much for them. To the OP--go with your gut, but I honestly think you would be happy and confident on the 161cm version of the motive 86!

 

Right. The 161 would certainly not be too much. Agree about that.

post #70 of 80

Q is right on the money with his point regarding 160 lb vs 120 lb. I'm 165 lb and Mrs Grump is 125 lb. 

 

For some of the posters here, we are practically the same? I don’t think so. I ain’t too bright but even I know we are way different – in all the good ways.

 

I am the hardware guy in the family, my rule is if the ski is in my quiver – don’t bother her with it regardless how much I love it.

Last time I disregarded that rule with a pair of Kenja demo. I went thru 3 pairs of Kendo, so I think I like them. We almost ended up in divorce court at the end of the day.

I the same vein, I like my Motive 86, but I just mounted the binding on her second pair of Cham 87W last week. People may call me stupid – but even I learn. :D 

 

Edit: BTW, she skis the same runs I do. Run for run with no waiting. I am not dumbing down the ski selection process. We are just different.  


Edited by KingGrump - 8/10/15 at 7:52pm
post #71 of 80
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Originally Posted by DesiredUsername View Post

At 5'10" and 145 I found the Motive 86 at 175 to be a near perfect balance of stable and nimble, FWIW. It doesn't feel at all like a heavy ski or a lot of effort to ski,

The other thing about Fischers in general is kind of hard to describe, but I recall Dawgcatching writing in a review about a feeling of confidence when skiing them. I found that as well, and maybe that's a helpful, if somewhat elusively vague description, given that you've mentioned a few times your concerns with coming back from an injury.

I invite you to trust that you are the right person, in the right place, at the right time, to learn what you need to and make wise decisions.

Regardless of your choice of ski, I wish that you have a fun and therapeutically rewarding first day back on the slopes sometime later this year. If I make a trip to visit my GF's family in SLC and Cache Valley I'd love to spend some time at Snowbasin with you. Or Powder Mt. Or both.

Sorry for the drive-by therapy hijack, we now return you to your regular Epic programming.

 

I DO know that feeling of confidence that they give, because when I demoed some Fischer KOA''s a few years ago, I LOVED how smooth they were, even in the choppiest of snow. Which is why I'm even considering the Motives. One of the guys I was with, who was a racer in the past, said that was a classic Fischer "feel". And absolutely, if you are down this way, message me. It's not too hard to convince me to spend a few hours up at Snowbasin. :D

 

IF one of the STP coupons shows up that covers the Motives, I'll probably pull the trigger.

post #72 of 80
Hmmm.... I just looked at STP and the Motives are on sale for $178 and some change. My recollection is their discount coupons don't apply to sale items. Get them now.
post #73 of 80

The Motive 86 on STP is the 2014 model, which has been changed last year to become lighter, more poppy and energetic. That's why they are so inexpensive, I imagine.

 

If you consider the Samba, you might consider the rediculously cheap Koa 100 as well as your powder/allmountain ski...

post #74 of 80
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Thanks, guys. Yep, they are now considered "clearance" so won't get cheaper. And Chez, I'm already skiing the Samba so no need for another 100-ish under foot. And yes, they are the 2014 model for the Motives. I've got lots of time to see what others come up for different fall sales.

post #75 of 80

There are many options available on the discount racks that will work for you all will do 7-8/10 things that you will demand of them, it just comes down to which of those 7-8 you demand and which 2-3 are you willing to forgo but there is not a 10/10 ski. There will always be some compromise. 

post #76 of 80
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Thanks, guys. Yep, they are now considered "clearance" so won't get cheaper. And Chez, I'm already skiing the Samba so no need for another 100-ish under foot. And yes, they are the 2014 model for the Motives. I've got lots of time to see what others come up for different fall sales.

 

When I bought my Magnums from Sierra Trading they were $116 on clearance now they are $107.   Maybe your Motives will still drop in price.  

post #77 of 80

The Motive 86s are on TheClymb for $130, in 161 cm.  Again, these are last year's models.  I just ordered my 2015s from Levelninesports.com for $339.  I'm 5'9" 155 lbs and expect to be happy with 175 cm.

post #78 of 80
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There are many options available on the discount racks that will work for you all will do 7-8/10 things that you will demand of them, it just comes down to which of those 7-8 you demand and which 2-3 are you willing to forgo but there is not a 10/10 ski. There will always be some compromise. 

 

If I can find something as fun as the Samba but in a mid-80's, that's as close to perfect for me as I can get :D  Remember how the Sambas scared me at first, too?! They became proof to me that a ski even 2 "steps" above your current level can help you up your game a LOT. Nordica Blem sale again this year??

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When I bought my Magnums from Sierra Trading they were $116 on clearance now they are $107.   Maybe your Motives will still drop in price.  

I'll definitely keep them in my cart...

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The Motive 86s are on TheClymb for $130, in 161 cm.  Again, these are last year's models.  I just ordered my 2015s from Levelninesports.com for $339.  I'm 5'9" 155 lbs and expect to be happy with 175 cm.

I saw those thanks to someone earlier in this thread, but they charge oversized shipping. I've got so many options in the local area come Labor Day weekend and into October to find stuff in stores that I can actually compare side-by-side, that I am probably going to hold off...In fact, I can actually go TO Level Nine Sports and probably will to get my daughter set up for next winter. Lucky me!

 

BUT I definitely got SO many great ideas for skis to be on the lookout for at said ski swaps/sales.

post #79 of 80
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Update on what I decided on thanks to some good conversations with folks like @Trekchick:

I bought a used pair of Kastle LX82 in a 164 from our very own @NayBreak :D

 

They sound like a ski that will step it up when I'm up for skiing hard, but won't kick my ass when I'm in the mood to cruise or be lazy (hey, it happens.) They will allow me to continue to hone my skills and handle the variety of conditions I can face in one run at Snowbasin. IF we have a more "normal" winter, then the Sambas might see more use. Last season, the Kastles would have seen more use. This year, I'd be happy with 50/50!

 

Anyway, I'm excited to get out and feel the "Kastle feel"!

post #80 of 80
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Originally Posted by contesstant View Post
 

Update on what I decided on thanks to some good conversations with folks like @Trekchick:

I bought a used pair of Kastle LX82 in a 164 from our very own @NayBreak :D

 

They sound like a ski that will step it up when I'm up for skiing hard, but won't kick my ass when I'm in the mood to cruise or be lazy (hey, it happens.) They will allow me to continue to hone my skills and handle the variety of conditions I can face in one run at Snowbasin. IF we have a more "normal" winter, then the Sambas might see more use. Last season, the Kastles would have seen more use. This year, I'd be happy with 50/50!

 

Anyway, I'm excited to get out and feel the "Kastle feel"!

 

Nice choice. 

 

I'm glad you picked them up or I was going to have to get them for my SO as a you've-graduated-from-beginner skis / birthday present. 

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