Originally Posted by Rich666
I do not have an issue with teaching the final product of "arc to arc pure carve" later in the progression such as where it is introduced at level 6. However, to do that you have to introduce the subject of carving much earlier. Teaching carving in of itself has a progression that you cannot just jam into one level as if it were a simple tactic and not the full fledged technique it really is.
I totally agree with you here Rich. Getting some intermediate or advanced students to make rail road track turns on easy terrain is an interesting experiment; and results in them experiencing, perhaps for the first time, what its like to ride purely on the sidecut. However, as you point out, there is only so far that is going to go and it simply does not represent all of the movements needed to truly be an in-control carver, and particularly that approach to teaching "carving" will not result in technique which can be applied all over the mountain, including off piste, in a carve-centric way. There are indeed, lots of nuts and bolts and specific movement patterns that are needed to master the art of getting the skis to carve effectively, and in a way that can be applied all mountain.
And I agree, those movement patterns need to be taught as early on as possible, and other carve destroying movements need to be avoided and discouraged, as early as possible. Those movement patterns do not necessarily equate to arc to arc skiing as an outcome, and just because a skier manages to park and ride on their sidecut or do some rail road tracks on easier terrain does not suddenly make them a master of carving technique, which has a lot more to it then that.
I want to clarify something also, I draw a distinction between "carving" and "arc2arc" skiing. "Carving", is more broad and can include non-edge-locked engagement (ie, skidding). To me, carving is only but one aspect of outcome and can be seen blended with other outcomes. A carving ski is one that is in the process of carving out a round turn shape and moving the skier on a curved path, with some skidding or not. In other words, if there is a round turn shape, there is some amount of carving. However, being able to do that effectively and efficiently and in difficult terrain situations is what separates the difference between a "carving skier" vs one that pretty much twists and skids and gets very little carving out of their skis other than doing rail road track turns on easier terrain or knows how to park and ride in some cases where they feel comfortable.
True mastery of carving is the ability to effectively make the skis carve efficiently, and in a way that is controlled...fast if you want, slow if you want, take the lines you want and basically using the ski to its full potential without resorting to man handling it around, twisting it to make it turn. And you are absolutely correct, if a skier has been taught for 5 or 6 levels of instruction to twist their skis into submission, then they understand very little about how to make their skis carve and will have a long road of unlearning and new learning to master the art of carving.
Edited by borntoski683 - 8/11/15 at 7:36am