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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Question about ski programs back east?

 

My daughter has been skiing Far West for Squaw Valley, and we are now relocating to New England, any recommendations on ski programs?

 

Will be a U12 this year.  

 

We want to keep up with the competitive league, so league and team recommendations are welcome.


Thanks

post #2 of 15
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Originally Posted by parkmonkey View Post
 

Question about ski programs back east?

 

My daughter has been skiing Far West for Squaw Valley, and we are now relocating to New England, any recommendations on ski programs?

 

Will be a U12 this year.  

 

We want to keep up with the competitive league, so league and team recommendations are welcome.


Thanks


What part of New England will you be living in, and how far do you want to travel each weekend?

 

You stated your daughter is a U12, so I'm guessing you are interested in racing programs.

 

In general, you will find the most competitive programs/racers in northern NE (NH, VT, ME), while in southern NE (MA, CT, RI) many of the kids will look at ski racing as a more recreational winter activity. However, there are kids from southern NE that have made it all the way to the World Cup, but many of them either finished up in a northern program or went the academy route in high school.

 

In NH, I would say Waterville Valley and Franconia Ski Club (Cannon Mt.) are generally considered the top programs year after year. Other well known programs are Sunapee, Gunstock, Ford Sayer (Dartmouth Skiway) and Mount Washington Valley areas. However, over the past few seasons, Crotched Mountain, located in southern NH, has been making waves producing some really good racers.  In reality, you will find good racers/coaching at just about any of the club programs in NH. The ones I mentioned seem to be the most consistent season after season or more recently in the Crotched case.

 

Most of the larger areas in northern NE don't have night skiing, so often racers from those areas will go to smaller mountains that have night skiing for mid-week training. Crotched has night skiing, so their kids get midweek training as part of the package cost, which results in a lot of on snow time over the length season. In programs that don't have night skiing, it will be extra cost for mid week training at an another area. It is pretty common to see kids that race for WV, FSC, or Sunapee to midweek train at other areas.

 

If your daughter really has caught the racing bug, it is really hard to top the academies where being on the snow 7 days a week is integrated into the academics, but the academies still can be big $$$$ even after financial aid and scholarships.

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 

CK, 

 

Thanks for the detailed response.

 

Yes, we are looking for a ski racing program.

 

We are moving to Newburyport, MA.  So NH, ME, and VT we are open to.

 

We are use to traveling 3 to 4  hours every weekend from San Francisco to Tahoe, so I would like to keep it in that range.


I have had a brief but insightful conversation about Waterville, and it sounds like a very good program with years of repeated results.

post #4 of 15

From Newburyport, you would want to stick with the NH or ME areas. The VT areas are going to be a haul from there. You will not be far from I93, and many of the NH ski areas are located off I93.

 

Can't go wrong with Waterville, it is a top notch program.

 

It should only be about 2 Hrs up to Waterville, plus there is a ton of rentals in the area.

post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 

CK, 

 

I was able to speak with Fred from Waterville Valley and it seems like a great set up and some similarity to our Squaw program out here.

 

Thanks again.

post #6 of 15

Consider Franconia Ski Club, based at Cannon.

post #7 of 15

Hi Welcome to the Northeast.  Newburyport is my favorite.  You will love it there!

 

You should also definitely consider Wachusett Mountain Race Team.  WMRT

 

http://skiwmrt.com/

 

Wachusett is about an hour and 15 minutes from Newburyport Rt 495 to 2..  It a s great family friendly mt with a cool race community. 

 

Training is Sat and Sun from 7:45 - 2 (weather and crowds permitting) with the option for also training at night (SL) 2 nights per week.  Tues and Thurs.   We also have Xmas and Feb break camps.

 

We have awesome parents and coaches and an effective training mountain. We have many competitive racers esp in the u12 and u14 levels. The u12 coaches are awesome and our lead female coach is one of the finest masters racers in NE.  She is one of the best coaches I have ever worked with.

 

If you are looking for an effective training venue that is more of day trip rather than a weekend away for the whole family, please consider our program.  If you would like to come train with us for dry land to check things out, we usually start in early Nov.  You can also arrange to come train for a day or 2 once the snow flies. 

 

There is also a vibrant adult night league that is one of the best in the country. 

 

Finally don't miss the Columbus Day Ski swap.  Excellent deals on everything.   One of the best swaps in the east.

 

In short

 

Close

Great Snowmaking 

Night skiing

Reasonable season passes and team fees.

Plenty of nearby lodging,

Great community / Youth Race Team

Great racing (kids and grown-ups)

 

Hope to see you and your athlete soon!

 

-Coach Pat U14

post #8 of 15

Check out Mount Mansfield Ski Club in Stowe too. www.teammmsc.org My daughter has had a good experience there and is just moving up to U14 this year.

post #9 of 15

Drive an Hour past Wachusetts (Wachusetts on a weekend is a bear-small, crowded-  And it's pretty flat) and Check out Berkshire East Ski Area in Charlemont, MA.  Very ski racer focused (Owner was part of a U of VT national championship team, the family loves racing, and no other mountain in the east has the same commitment to racing as B'East).  And, it's a great place to ski.   And it'll be cheaper than just about anywhere else worth skiing.  Waterville is a pretty good choice as well.

post #10 of 15

Not sure what the program is at Cannon, but go there for your own sanity while your kid is skiing you will at least like the skiing.  You will want to hang yourself going to Wawa all the time, so crowded, small vertical, etc.  If you are used to Tahoe skiing Cannon, Waterville, Stowe, not sure what they have at Sunday River in Maine will be decent.  

post #11 of 15
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Not sure what the program is at Cannon, but go there for your own sanity while your kid is skiing you will at least like the skiing.  You will want to hang yourself going to Wawa all the time, so crowded, small vertical, etc.  If you are used to Tahoe skiing Cannon, Waterville, Stowe, not sure what they have at Sunday River in Maine will be decent.  


Cannon doesn't have a race program per se, it is run by the Franconia Ski Club (where Bode started racing) However, Cannon and FSC have a very good relationship. Cannon knows it needs FSC to survive, just like Waterville needs WVBBTS. Once FSC gets everything moved over to the old Mittersill area, FSC racing is going to have a world class training facility. It will be the USST's main eastern training site.

 

The only mountains that are going to have Tahoe quality natural snow are the northern VT areas. That area simply gets a ton more natural snow than anything in New England. For a big, continuous vertical drop hard to top Sugarloaf in ME (where Bode ended up after FSC), but that is a trip up there from just about anywhere. Renting something for the season is the only way to go unless you are a local! However, Sugarloaf's weekend program is run by CVA, so a great tradeoff for the weekend stay up there.

 

Yes, Wachusett is very busy just about any weekend, to put it nicely...

post #12 of 15

Sticking up for "my" lil mt.  Yes Wachusett can get crowded.  Usually starts filling up about 10-11 when the half steppers show up.  From 8-10 we have the run of the mt plus you can work around the crowds.  We also have three early morning trainings per year when the lifts spin for racers only at 7:00 am when we set a minute + gs from the top.  It is a unique experience to ride up on snowmobiles and set in the pitch dark and see the sun rise.

 

If you are done dicking around, go to Burke.  It is by far the best training Mt in NE with the best coaching and training trails in an accessible, affordable, beautiful location with great summer fun too. But why would you leave NBPT in the summer?  

 

Last thing....

 

Natural snow like Tahoe in NE....never mind racing on Tahoe snow.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by pat View Post
 

Sticking up for "my" lil mt.  Yes Wachusett can get crowded.  Usually starts filling up about 10-11 when the half steppers show up.  From 8-10 we have the run of the mt plus you can work around the crowds.  We also have three early morning trainings per year when the lifts spin for racers only at 7:00 am when we set a minute + gs from the top.  It is a unique experience to ride up on snowmobiles and set in the pitch dark and see the sun rise.

 

If you are done dicking around, go to Burke.  It is by far the best training Mt in NE with the best coaching and training trails in an accessible, affordable, beautiful location with great summer fun too. But why would you leave NBPT in the summer?  

 

Last thing....

 

Natural snow like Tahoe in NE....never mind racing on Tahoe snow.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Burke is a great mountain with a very good program. I am more familiar with the programs in NH and Maine since that was my primary stomping ground racing as a kid, and I coach in NH. But, there are many good programs in VT too.

 

Yes, hard to compare snow in NE to the western fluff, but northern VT is by far the best snow east of the Rockies. However when my trip out west this season looked something like this, Jay's powder looks great!:ROTF

 

 

 

 

And Wachusett is still too crowded on the weekends:p:p:p

post #14 of 15

MMSC at Stowe is an excellent program, and the racing program at Burke recently put out some lady named Mikaela Schiffrin... maybe you've heard of her. 

post #15 of 15

also reach out to @Muleski for recommendations and insight 

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