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Swapping out look pivot brakes

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

So I've decided to get blizzard latigo's for next season as an all-mountain/bump ski. I can get the ski for under $400, but I'm having a lot more trouble with the bindings. 

 

I've talked with a few bears in person and the look pivots 14 got thrown out a few times, so I'm considering going with that. But, the binding is practically more expensive than the ski.

 

Normally, the binding is ~$300. I found a deal here for $210 but with 130mm brakes. So my question is, can I swap out JUST the brake? Or are there other components that need to be replaced? How difficult is it (i.e do I need a tech to avoid compromising the performance of the binding?) How expensive is it? I'm having trouble finding places that sell replacement brakes as well. I found a place in the UK that sells then, but they are pricey and with shipping it would likely end up being a wash.

 

Weighing the possible of just clipping off the brakes entirely and using a tether similar to my tele setup.

 

Edit: Worth mentioning that the latigo's are 78 underfoot and the pivots are 75, so I'd need to do a little bit of bending.

post #2 of 13

Brake swaps or bends on the Pivots are a serious PITA compared to almost any other binding. There's an old detailed thread w/ pics on TGR IIRC. Might be a sticky. Or you might need to search. Unless you are a reasonably seasoned do it your selfer, you might be better off taking a different road. Tyrolia Attacks and Salomon STHs are certainly reasonably priced options (though rather different beasts than the Pivots).

 

Pivot brakes are however pretty springy. They will handle much more than a 3mm variation. So 75 vs 78 is nothing if you do go down that road.

 

Just my two cents. YMMV.

post #3 of 13
The brakes on pivots are not swappable, so the 130mm wide bindings won't work. For a most cost effective, but equally good, binding take a look at the Salomon STH2 13 or 16.
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 

I found an acceptable deal

 

Not sure if this is the TGR article you're talking about. I'm not a tech but I can't imagine bending each brake 1.5 mm's would be a huge PIA.

post #5 of 13
The pivot brakes are a bit wide anyhow... Get the 75 and bend it a bit. You'll be fine. I have 115's bent similarly to accommodate a 118 ski. No problem. Even if you want to go to the royal PITA of exchanging the brake, the brake assembly bought separately is quite expensive and would obviate much of you economic argument.
post #6 of 13
I think I was unclear. If you get a 75, it should fit a 78 waisted ski just fine without any real bending.
post #7 of 13

1st, there is nothing magic or even very special about Look Pivot/ Rossignol FKS bindings. They work well, sure, so do others. 

 

2nd, the brakes can be replaced by exchanging the entire lower assembly of the heel, the retail cost of a new set is $125

 

3rd, take a look at the DIN 12 version. It is every bit as good for 95% of skiers for a notable savings in price.

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by spindrift View Post

I think I was unclear. If you get a 75, it should fit a 78 waisted ski just fine without any real bending.

 

^ This

 

I have a pair of Latigo's with Pivot 14's (75 width) and you don't really need to bend them at all. I had them mounted at a shop but they never told me that they had to bend them to get them to fit

post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
 

1st, there is nothing magic or even very special about Look Pivot/ Rossignol FKS bindings. They work well, sure, so do others. 

 

Please elaborate. Pivots have been mentioned the most but I'm open for other suggestions

post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

 

3rd, take a look at the DIN 12 version. It is every bit as good for 95% of skiers for a notable savings in price.

 

What's the max effective DIN on this binding? I have my Jesters set to 10.5, and I know with many bindings your not supposed to get too close to the top end of the DIN setting. I only ask this because I've had a catastrophic pre-release due to this.

post #11 of 13

I have older pivot and breaks can be swapped. Original breaks was standard 78 mm I bought 100 mm directly from LOOK. IIRC $30

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post #13 of 13
$199.00 isn't too bad.
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