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post #91 of 2365

...or just raise those skis up waay higher on the Osprey than you've got them now.  It's very annoying to keep hitting those tails as you walk.  Been there, done that.

post #92 of 2365
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...or just raise those skis up waay higher on the Osprey than you've got them now.  It's very annoying to keep hitting those tails as you walk.  Been there, done that.

Yeah but those boots will get kinda high, don't you think? Center of gravity will be too high IMO. But trial and error is the way to figure it out.

post #93 of 2365

Yep, try it out at home.  Try walking up the stairs.  If your skis bump your legs on the way up or down, try something different.

post #94 of 2365
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Yeah but those boots will get kinda high, don't you think? Center of gravity will be too high IMO. But trial and error is the way to figure it out.

I just take my boots out and connect the cuff straps and hang them on the bag. The skis will keep them on. they shift a little if you turn fast but just hiking never had any issues. 

post #95 of 2365
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Looks good! You are probably going to want something to widen the base of the pack to keep the tails wider. You end up kicking them or knocking your calves while you're walking. 

Yep, they were shuffling a bit around the house to avoid calf contact. I may leave the little pillow in there but make sure it is entirely sideways at the bottom of the pack, which should be enough. I don't think there is enough rigidity to raise them up much, but worth a quick try.

I have tomorrow to get the adjustments made, because the incentive worked and the boys were able to muster the strength to hit the pavement and complete their fundraiser biggrin.gif.

Thanks again to all for the suggestions and recommendations.
post #96 of 2365

Here's my suggestion.  Load one of your skis and boots onto each kids pack.  Tell them it will be good for them.

 

Mike

post #97 of 2365

Around what time were you two making turns?  I'm actually debating on heading to St Marys tomorrow for some July turns but wondering around what time the snow was 'good for July'.  My options tomorrow are either ski or go to the dentist, having a tough time making the decision.

 

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Like seg says, that was St. Mary's yesterday, and it skied well, relatively speaking. Not much change from last week, it seems to be holding up.

The views of the lake are really nice from the snow field!

There are two lots you can park in, both are private property and charge you a fiver (cash goes in an envelope that you drop into a slot). The lots have been pretty full lately, and there are a zillion (for me) people there, but once you start up the snow you have the place to yourself, everyone is at the lake, save for a few ad hoc sledders.

I like to hike it, starting on the (looker's) right side and then crossing over the snow to the left side when possible. If you scramble above the scree, it's easier going, and a trail develops toward the top. Boot packing up the right side works fine too, though. I'm not thrilled about the steep(er) face nearest the lake, there's a lot of water running underneath it, I'd stick with the main pitch to looker's right.

Having a snack and a drink before you click in is a good reward for making the hike...
post #98 of 2365
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Around what time were you two making turns?  I'm actually debating on heading to St Marys tomorrow for some July turns but wondering around what time the snow was 'good for July'.  My options tomorrow are either ski or go to the dentist, having a tough time making the decision.

I've heard of sun-cups rattling fillings lose; not setting them in place, but I suppose it's not unpossible...:D 

post #99 of 2365
It was not too early, I think they probably were skiing by about one
post #100 of 2365
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So what's ideal in terms of it 'softening'? NOAA is saying 50% chance of showers and thunderstorms after noon, highs around 60.

That makes me think it's a good idea to clip in by about 11, when it is hopefully still sunny?
post #101 of 2365
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So what's ideal in terms of it 'softening'? NOAA is saying 50% chance of showers and thunderstorms after noon, highs around 60.

That makes me think it's a good idea to clip in by about 11, when it is hopefully still sunny?

 

Earlier if possible, but that's not bad. The lower snowfields are not too far from your car. Hopefully they are still there ;) but I don't think it's been too hot over the past few weeks. We had a late start the day we were up, and it was more like a 90% chance of storms that day, which is why we didn't go any farther up than we did. Got hailed on in the car on the way down, so I'm glad we were smart. Lightning didn't start til later, but you are pretty high, up there, so don't push it.

 

A few pics of lower snowfields .. we just walked straight up the talus from the car.

 

 

 

Thought about doing that short snowfield across there as well, but the weather was threatening. And the exit is across the rocks, which I don't like so much. 

 

post #102 of 2365

Climb up early, bring a lunch and any other items you might desire for a brief or extended wait. Then determine when to click in by the touch of the snow. Clock not required.

post #103 of 2365

Yeah, @skiNEwhere and I got an earlier start and had to get down from the glacier by around 11 or maybe 12 due to nasty clouds overhead. It started raining on our hike down pretty intensely, and just a few minutes after I got to my car, the heavens unleashed their rage. It was like being in a car wash.

 

... The snow was not rock hard, but definitely not slushy enough to make suncups fun. 

post #104 of 2365

@segbrown, I didn't realize St. Mary's was so expansive. I've never been our course, so what would I know? :-)

post #105 of 2365
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@segbrown, I didn't realize St. Mary's was so expansive. I've never been our course, so what would I know? :-)

Looks familiar, huh? No, he said yesterday that they are going to the lower part of Peak 10.

post #106 of 2365
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Still planning St. Mary's, but I did post a confusing response about sticking with a plan that sounds like going to Peak 10. May still do that if I feel like that would be the most conservative plan.

I was planning to leave at 6am in order to be touching snow by 9. Earlier seemed better, so will stick with that to see how the snow and weather are evolving.

Found these never used in the closet - they were bought for winter dog walks on icy roads. May be useful for St. Mary's?



post #107 of 2365
Oh, I misunderstood. Well, you don't need to go quite that early, then. St Mary's will be quicker, and it's not so high. I think you can back it up an hour.
post #108 of 2365
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Still planning St. Mary's, but I did post a confusing response about sticking with a plan that sounds like going to Peak 10. May still do that if I feel like that would be the most conservative plan.

I was planning to leave at 6am in order to be touching snow by 9. Earlier seemed better, so will stick with that to see how the snow and weather are evolving.

Found these never used in the closet - they were bought for winter dog walks on icy roads. May be useful for St. Mary's?



 

They can't hurt and don't take up much space.

post #109 of 2365

Mid-morning might be a little softer, provided it doesn't cloud over and storm by noon. So hard to predict the monsoon this year; I've been running about 70/30 soaked to sunburn ratio for about the last month. If the snow softens under direct sun, probably much less chance of taking the death-slide, but doesn't look like those traction devices take much space/weight, so maybe bring 'em anyway. OTOH, if it's gray and glacial, it's probably not going to be that much fun to ski anyway.

 

Hope it's nuclear and soft for you and Thing 1/2 tomorrow!:yahoo: 

post #110 of 2365
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I've heard of sun-cups rattling fillings lose; not setting them in place, but I suppose it's not unpossible...biggrin.gif  
Well that would actually save me the pain of drilling out the old silver fillings. Dentist rescheduled. I once weaseled out of a court date so I wouldn't miss a powder day (and even got the fine reduced!), so shirking responsibility to ski isn't entirely foreign to me.
post #111 of 2365

It's not really freezing at night, I've never encountered truly firm conditions at St Mary's until fall. (But it's not like I've been up there that often, either.)

post #112 of 2365

@segbrown , thanks for the clarification. I didn't look at the pictures thinking they were Peak 10, but Dillon Reservoir should have been a giveaway for me.

 

@NayBreak , if St. Mary's doesn't work out, Peak 10 is easily accessed and the snowfields are pretty tame for skiing and hiking on. I am hoping to hit 4th of July Bowl on August 31 and September 1 with a camp over. I've done it before and it was a blast. Last year we camped at tree line because of poor weather.

 

Here is a montage from probably 10 years ago when I soloed with my dog. She found a porcupine and I had to relieve her of the quills with my Leatherman.

 

post #113 of 2365

@NayBreak I don't remember what vehicle your in now but there are also some cool 4x4 trails near St. Mary's as a back up/afternoon diversion 

post #114 of 2365
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Well...we decided a bit more adventure was in order biggrin.gif

post #115 of 2365
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Well...we decided a bit more adventure was in order biggrin.gif


I was betting on this if it was at all possible!
post #116 of 2365
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Well...we decided a bit more adventure was in order biggrin.gif


Not sure which I'm more jealous of, the skiing, or the skis! Well played Sir!

post #117 of 2365
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Cruiser ski porn. What a fun day. Trip report tomorrow.



(that's a little spur parking trail, not driving on tundra)

Upper snow fields are isolated and not connected.

post #118 of 2365
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OK...so the decision was made to tour Peak 10 because I couldn't get comfortable with the potential of St. Mary's being a bit much for a test run, and also, because I love off-road alpine touring to killer destinations, and the lure was too strong to combine with July turns. Plus, I had the feel we'd have little vert, but maybe better snow, and even if the skiing was a bust...the rest would be awesome. So again, thanks to all for pics, recommendations, and suggestions. It went perfectly smile.gif.

We left Monument at 6:00am on plan, and were getting trip advice from a nice Beaver Run employee in the parking lot by 8:30 (after a Downieville coffee pit stop) about all the main features, conditions, and landmarks of heading up FS 751. He'd keep catching himself, look at the Cruiser, and say, "but you'll have no problem." He encouraged us to go all the way up to the microwave tower. Nice guy.

The road up to the stables is a nice dirt road, and we stopped there to air down. 20 PSI is enough to make a trip like this much more comfortable.





Thing 2, who assuredly had his ski socks ready, but didn't, so stole Mom's socks. Ready.



Drop it into low range (still AWD), time to roll.
post #119 of 2365
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As noted by @lonewolf210, This road is barely a 4WD trail, but it is one. Most people we saw ditched their SUV's once the switchbacks started, with some rain and tire spinning rutting, and then hiked. Like this, still below tree line.



Climbing higher past various lifts and resort infrastructure, the views quickly become...nice... smile.gif



Breaking out above treelike...Breck is really fantastic in summer. The depth of the Alpine terrain back from the below tree line terrain immediately gives it a high alpine feel reminiscent to me of the San Juans. That is awesome.



The road is well maintained with a lack of off camber spots as the alpine feel continues to build.



Some of the switchbacks continue to present a little more challenge than newbies might be comfortable with, especially alone. I would hesitate to bring a AWD car up, because the no drama lines require some clearance and suspension articulation, something that cars lack in both aspects. A lack of low range gearing at this altitude would make the climb work as well, instead of a tour.



Where will we ski?

post #120 of 2365
Thread Starter 
The upper snow fields are isolated, disconnected, and to the point of the trip, not a test run kind of thing.



There is a long lateral field accessible on a loop off the main trail, but I didn't drive all this way to basically traverse off camber. I do too much of that when I chicken out in the regular season biggrin.gif



So here we go. A long sledding hill. For skiing. Let's see if repetition can cream up some July corn.

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