Originally Posted by crgildart
That's exactly what I was wondering. So there is a type of competitive play where you don't have to win by 2 so there is no "deuce". Still seems to make more sense to say deuce at 30-30 and add in/out after the next point where add is used....
Some players do say "30-deuce" to signify 30-all. Some players say "5" instead of "15." In fact, I usually say "5" although I'm not sure where that came from. It's just easier, lol.
In no-ad scoring, you are supposed to score by saying 1-love, 1-all, etc, first to 4 pts, like a tiebreak. That takes away the whole deuce issue, you just count normally. But most players don't do that and it can be confusing.
Here are some answers from USTA to some of these concerns...
Q. I’ve often wondered why the zero to 15, then 15 to 30 AND the biggie, the switch from the 15's to 40? I see the jump in 15-pt increments, but why the last jump from 30 to 40? I've asked this over and over and nobody seems to give me a straight answer. Is there a reason? Why doesn't it go to 45, not 40? A tennis lover.
A. Originally, the scoring was based on the hands of the clock. Thus, the 15-30-45-Game scoring that would seem logical. Over time, 40 became “slang” (or shortened) from 45. By the way, “love” is zero- which looks like an egg. French for “the egg” is “l’ouef,” and when this is Anglicized it became “love.”
Q. How did the "No-Ad" scoring method get started? And who thought of it?
A. Jimmy Van Alen, who Bud Collins refers to as the “Newport Bolshevik,” created the no-ad scoring method in an effort to shorten the length of long, boring matches. I am sorry to say that he created this about thirty-five years ago, yet some people are still complaining about long, boring matches. Oh, well. The revolution continues.
By the way, no-ad scoring is when you play to four points during a game. Typically, regular numbers (1, 2, 3, and 4) are used instead of our traditional (15, 30, 40, game) scoring. Thus, 40-15 is 3-1 in no-ad scoring. If/when the score reaches 3-3 in a particular game, then the next point decides who will win this game sudden-death style. In these instances, the receiver(s) decide(s) toward which side the server must serve.
This no-ad scoring was used when I played college tennis, but is no longer typically used at the Division I level. In some tournaments, it is used to, for example, shorten the length of consolation matches. World Team Tennis still utilizes the no-ad scoring system during the professional season and it has the potential for creating a lot of “big point” moments during sets.