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post #31 of 43
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Originally Posted by borntoski683 View Post

Back to topic, there is a video I saw once floating around on the net somewhere of ken interviewing JF.

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIHWsTq2dJQ

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Originally Posted by g-force View Post

jzmtl and dbostedo... You are 3rd man in. Game misconducts. Read post #20 again.
Read this thread again, too http://www.epicski.com/t/119377/whister-ski-school-development-sessions
It is from my post #13. So did i answer 'the question' ?
So razie misread the link in #13 too;  and can comment on Ken's Indoor and I can't comment on Razie's site after reading it ?
Watch a few Dr Ken vids, check out the link I posted in #13... Comment on razie's web site material. Read Ken Chaddock's books. Comment on those too.
So lets keep this going until the last word... but try to comment on the content.. If you can .

Okay I'll admit, I never finished reading any of your post. Too much angry incoherent rambling so I glanced over the rest after two sentences.
post #32 of 43
That's one of them. I think there are several.
post #33 of 43
G-force, just want to say, that anytime anyone posts anything in the Internet, be it forum posts, blog writings or you tube videos; they are opening themselves to criticism. That comes with the territory. Sadly youtube is often used in a narcissistic way to try to self promote. I'm not pointing my finger at anyone in particular, just a general observation. But regardless of the true motivation for putting up blogs, videos and forum posts; once it's in the public domain then it's perfectly fair game to discuss the merits. You seem unhappy about the fact that either ken or JF or both have been challenged in some way, but nobody will ever be beyond reproach. Particularly in an age where it is so easy to self publish information or disinformation to one's own fancy, without editors involved and so forth, this will be the case even more. A huge percentage of what we see on the Internet is not factual. Question everything! Even from nice guys like ken.
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post #35 of 43

I've been watching the videos.  They are, from what I can tell, a Movement Analysis discussion with ski instructors.  They are not instruction of the students, but are instead looking at ski performance and body performance and identifying the changes in the movement patterns that would allow more efficient/dynamic skiing.  Personally, I find them to be quite useful.

 

As to the whole fore/aft thing, there are a lot of people on this board who believe in forward pressure.  I'd say that the vast majority of top tier ski coaches/instructors are much more in the camp of being centered.  I say this from skiing with 6 current or former demo team members, several CSIA level 4 instructors, and watching the coaching of JF Beaulieu, Reilly McGlashan, and Paul Lorenz.  It's a topic that is a source of endless debate and no one is going to change adherents of either camp's mind.

 

Mike

post #36 of 43
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Originally Posted by habacomike View Post
 

I've been watching the videos.  They are, from what I can tell, a Movement Analysis discussion with ski instructors.  They are not instruction of the students, but are instead looking at ski performance and body performance and identifying the changes in the movement patterns that would allow more efficient/dynamic skiing.  Personally, I find them to be quite useful.

 

As to the whole fore/aft thing, there are a lot of people on this board who believe in forward pressure.  I'd say that the vast majority of top tier ski coaches/instructors are much more in the camp of being centered.  I say this from skiing with 6 current or former demo team members, several CSIA level 4 instructors, and watching the coaching of JF Beaulieu, Reilly McGlashan, and Paul Lorenz.  It's a topic that is a source of endless debate and no one is going to change adherents of either camp's mind.

 

Mike

exactly. i missed initially what was going on - i thought he was talking to students.

 

forward/central. yes. it depends on the turn shape and timing and preference, sure. still - i would not tell anyone to "get back" perhaps "stay more centered on the skis". The problem those skiers had though was they were parking it forward and staying there with long legs at the end of the turn, rather than roll pressure more dynamically through the turn. It's not about getting more "back" but more flexed - which he eventually does mention. I think some had soft boots too.

 

it is an endless debate though because the ski designs are endless and boot choices and body shapes are endless and turn shapes and terrain choices are endless. but in a nutshell, the more performance you get from the skis, the more you need to worry about recentering, which is why i don't like asking anyone to "not get forward" in general - I don't like limiting anyone to one single turn shape.

 

Also, one won't know what "ski performance" one can get, until one gets it - which one won't if one's not forward enough - chicken egg thing :) But again, he was talking to L4 candidates apparently, who should know this stuff.

 

I do like later though, when he does talk about the X-move and what that means to being forward and flexed.

 

cheers

post #37 of 43

Dr, Ken is really into counter for all turns.  He'd like my Inside Hip Drive move.  

post #38 of 43
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Originally Posted by borntoski683 View Post

G-force, just want to say, that anytime anyone posts anything in the Internet, be it forum posts, blog writings or you tube videos; they are opening themselves to criticism. That comes with the territory. Sadly youtube is often used in a narcissistic way to try to self promote. I'm not pointing my finger at anyone in particular, just a general observation. But regardless of the true motivation for putting up blogs, videos and forum posts; once it's in the public domain then it's perfectly fair game to discuss the merits. You seem unhappy about the fact that either ken or JF or both have been challenged in some way, but nobody will ever be beyond reproach. Particularly in an age where it is so easy to self publish information or disinformation to one's own fancy, without editors involved and so forth, this will be the case even more. A huge percentage of what we see on the Internet is not factual. Question everything! Even from nice guys like ken.


I seem unhappy ? I am much more dismayed that the readers and writers here can't. You too; need post #13 and Post #20.

Razie thinks Ken is talking to students - not teachers... as if that matters. It is still great commentary.  

I am not unhappy that JF and Ken get 'challenged' but so far as my posts go you some of 'you guys' are missing some facts in how this thread reads.

jzmtl can't read to the end of a post.

So far as the real facts go... Ken Chaddock is a great proponent of staying really neutral in the boot - first "on the 'whole foot and nothing but the foot' " and Then on the cuff as a response to pressure building as the ski comes into the fall line and gets massive ( my word ) as the ski comes more across the path of the mass. I think Ken talks counter because so many skiers in the vids are hippy.

JF .. and that Chaddock guy; say keep the laser from the navel pointed over the outside tip... and that's enough counter for shmediums ... of course shorts need more counter because the next turn is coming right at ya'. 

post #39 of 43
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Originally Posted by g-force View Post
 

ok. you get the last word.

outta here.

 

oh. wait. I posted a link to Ken and JF ... and Ken Indoors...  and you talked about  'fuzzy'.  Bashing Thread ?

Then I put up a link to who Ken is and told you in other words that you don't have the horses to use phrases like 'unified demo look' and 'static park and ride' and 'a guy with a hammer' .

Then it is about me being defensive after I call you on it and now its about my ID-street-cred ? Bashing thread ? you don't have the horses for that either.

The bright side is  that we agree on Ken Chaddock's book - which is easy. 

and he has a new one out too.

The specifics are what is written here. I debated you in 'centered'. 

ps: you can go somewhere too.

thank you

 

Razzie has plenty of horses ... in his motorcycle,

post #40 of 43
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Originally Posted by g-force View Post
 


I seem unhappy ? I am much more dismayed that the readers and writers here can't. You too; need post #13 and Post #20.

Razie thinks Ken is talking to students - not teachers... as if that matters. It is still great commentary.  

I am not unhappy that JF and Ken get 'challenged' but so far as my posts go you some of 'you guys' are missing some facts in how this thread reads.

jzmtl can't read to the end of a post.

So far as the real facts go... Ken Chaddock is a great proponent of staying really neutral in the boot - first "on the 'whole foot and nothing but the foot' " and Then on the cuff as a response to pressure building as the ski comes into the fall line and gets massive ( my word ) as the ski comes more across the path of the mass. I think Ken talks counter because so many skiers in the vids are hippy.

JF .. and that Chaddock guy; say keep the laser from the navel pointed over the outside tip... and that's enough counter for shmediums ... of course shorts need more counter because the next turn is coming right at ya'. 

 

Yes, Razie made a "ready, fire, aim" statement. But he then recognized his statement was uninformed, and that's as much of an apology from him as you'll get. Can we move on? 

 

Where I'm now confused is how Ken C popped into this. Ken C is a different person from Ken P (although they are both pros at Whistler and know each other).

 

For what it's worth, I'm taking at least another 2-3 weeks of training with JF this coming winter at Mont Sainte Anne through Rookie Academy. It's a phenomenal deal considering the packages include accommodation (your own bedroom), lift tickets, lessons from JF or occasionally guest stars (who are amazing), grocery runs, and transit to/from the airport. JF is a really nice guy, nearly all the other participants were a lot of fun, and the whole course is a really pleasant atmosphere for learning. Moreover, you're around 45 minutes away from Quebec City, which is one of the most culturally unique areas of North America, and well worth visiting. 

post #41 of 43
If I won the lottery, I'd love to do the Rookie Academy, especially if S. Michel is n the guest professeur list. smile.gif
post #42 of 43

JF talking to Ken Paynter. Ken Paynter video 'discussion'... leads to words and more words. These on to razie's site so I threw Ken Chaddock's excellent books into the mix for more - but worthwhile words... All threads here meander in to entropy.

Envy you for the M.Ste. Anne weeks and your rockin' snowy winter in the east...

post #43 of 43
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

If I won the lottery, I'd love to do the Rookie Academy, especially if S. Michel is n the guest professeur list. smile.gif

 

The guest star we got is renowned in CSIA and internationally, has been a many-times-over interski coach, and every bit as good a coach as JF but with a totally easy-breezy skiing style. No guarantees about who'll be there on a given week, but it was quite amazing. 

 

Our exchange rate is much in favour of the US presently, so you're paying around $975USD including your lift, lodging and lessons with JF for a week.  

 

Now, if SM is your dream skier, I bet you could get in touch with him through linkedin and maybe he'd be willing to work something out with you. Montreal is close to Quebec City, and Tremblant can be a fun place for midweek skiing. 

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