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Utah's ski industry needs clean power

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This op-ed piece brings up things that some of us have been talking about and seeing in some ski areas for a while. 

Utah's ski industry needs Clean Power to survive

 

Thoughts? :popcorn

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My $0.02CDN worth..if you really believe in climate change (let's not debate that again!), then the ski industry probably isn't all that high up on the priority list!!

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Three of the four building blocks of the CPP are pretty easy for me to agree with.

 

Improving thermal efficiency?  Sounds good, especially if we have to replace all those 30 and 40 year old plants anyway.      EDIT: They're 30-40 years old now.   The target date is 2030.   Does anyone really want 50+ year old coal burners?

 

Scheduling and dispatching sources to meet demand in the least carbon-generating way that leaves suitable load margins?    Hey those low carbon sources tend to be cheaper anyway because they are more thermally efficient than the high carbon ones.    This is really low hanging fruit, folks. 

 

Demand side efficiency?   I'm all for it.   Of course, for the ski industry that's going to mean a hell of a lot of deep thinking about when exactly one should turn the snow guns on.    And no, just swopping LEDs for incandescents is not going to do it. 


As to the fourth building block - The low weighting given to hydro and nuclear power under the CPP are not something I like.   But, hey, whatevs, those industries have liabilities not reflected in their current generation cost anyway.   And 3 out of 4 ain't bad. 


Edited by cantunamunch - 6/24/15 at 7:49am
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In for the conversation as I work in renewables.

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Lots of what Cantunamunch said.

 

Clean is great, dependable is better.

 

We can efficiently reduce pollution nearly 50% from power plants right now by converting the coal burning plants to Natural gas. Not only cleaner but cheaper too.  This is not nearly as sexy as renewable energy, but it is what we can do efficiently while other sources can be further evolved.

 

How badly do you want to put windmills all through our mountains? It could be argued that visually they are their own form of pollution. (Says the guy in the oil and gas industry)

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Lots of what Cantunamunch said.

 

Clean is great, dependable is better.

 

We can efficiently reduce pollution nearly 50% from power plants right now by converting the coal burning plants to Natural gas. Not only cleaner but cheaper too.  This is not nearly as sexy as renewable energy, but it is what we can do efficiently while other sources can be further evolved.

 

How badly do you want to put windmills all through our mountains? It could be argued that visually they are their own form of pollution. (Says the guy in the oil and gas industry)

"Windmills" grind flour and pump water. You must be talking about wind turbines.

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How badly do you want to put windmills all through our mountains? It could be argued that visually they are their own form of pollution. (Says the guy in the oil and gas industry)

Actually I would argue that wind turbines actually look rather nice in the landscape, as long as they aren't bunched together. Just looking at those gigantic white turbines gently turning in the wind is mesmermizing IMO.
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