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post #1 of 15
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How do I know if a helmet I am buying online has this CE sticker we have to have now? Is there a list somewhere of approved helmets that have the sticker? The helmet I bought 2 years ago says in its marketing material that it meets the CE 1077 standard, but it has no sticker so I'm out of luck right?

post #2 of 15

A couple of things (assuming this is for Masters racing).  It is not the CE mark that is required, it is the FIS sticker, like this

 

 

If buying online, no easy way tp ascertain but you can tell in some cases by the helmet model.  For example the new FIS approved POC helmet is a bit rounder and overall bigger than the previous version.   

 

However, some good news for you.  For next season USSA masters, the new sticker helmet remains recommended rather than mandatory so you can get another season out of your current helmet

post #3 of 15

CE and Snell markings can sometimes be found inside the helmet, under the removable liner, but, like Scots said, a 'FIS" sticker is what you need be concerned with.

 

Best way to ascertain is see the helmet in person and find the sticker (that Scots shows above), or deal with an honest vendor online and ask them specifically if it has the FIS sticker.  Specialty ski race shops are aware of the sticker and many of them have it listed on their website as "FIS" or "FIS compliant" in the item title or description.

post #4 of 15

For my US friends, did I hear correctly that USSA now requires the FIS sticker/approved version for all racers starting at U14?

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For my US friends, did I hear correctly that USSA now requires the FIS sticker/approved version for all racers starting at U14?


yes, that is correct ZG.  masters was going to be the same but we have a dispensation for next year at the moment.  the Masters Regional Divisions all made representations to get a delay as it became yet another obstacle to trying to bring in new racers to try it.

 

At our mountain we plan to apply the relevant helmet standards for training as well to avoid any issues.  (we have also had a mandatory helmet requirement for coaches - when on skis - for ~3 years now) 

post #6 of 15

Thanks for the confirmation. There will be a number of upset parents shopping for new helmets this year!

 

I wonder when Alpine Canada will follow suit. Knowing them, it'll be announced in early December to cause panic right at the beginning of the season, then the sh*t will hit the fan, then they'll give one season grace period.

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Thanks for the confirmation. There will be a number of upset parents shopping for new helmets this year!

 

The helmet requirements for 2015-16 were announced in the Spring of 2014.

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The helmet requirements for 2015-16 were announced in the Spring of 2014.

Yeah but that doesn't mean there won't be a number of upset parents shopping for new helmets this year. wink.gif
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Yeah but that doesn't mean there won't be a number of upset parents shopping for new helmets this year. wink.gif

 

 

Nor does it mean any of them were aware of the changes or paid attention. The avid parents might, but a lot of the weekend warriors don't read those emails from USSA or their region, or something for next season doesn't register after a long season.

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The helmet requirements for 2015-16 were announced in the Spring of 2014.

 

 

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Yeah but that doesn't mean there won't be a number of upset parents shopping for new helmets this year. wink.gif

 

 

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Nor does it mean any of them were aware of the changes or paid attention. The avid parents might, but a lot of the weekend warriors don't read those emails from USSA or their region, or something for next season doesn't register after a long season.


Yes, they were announced then but not necessarily widely understood.  We all saw the new helmets at Sochi but hadn't anticipated it passing down so quickly.  Worse,  suppliers were still shipping stock, that would be eligible, without the new sticker for a period.  A couple of our FIS kids got caught out that way.  I have a new spec POC one but not used it yet, it definitely feels a bit larger/more bulbous at first compared to the POC Comp 2 i have been using.....      

post #11 of 15

There is a noticeable difference in the FIS-stickered Shreds than the previous years, definitely more larger with more padding.

 

There was enough confusion when they announced it for FIS two (?) years ago, and they delayed it, or at least allowed an added on sticker, for one season because at least one manufacturer couldn't comply because they had already done most of their production run (Uvex I believe) and they would be unable to comply with the sticker being part of the helmet graphics under the clear coat, not just a sticker over top.

 

In the end it is probably better, but with any transition there will be those who will be pissed off because they can't hand down, or get used equipment. Give it a couple of years and it will be a non-issue until FIS comes up with a different set of rules.

post #12 of 15

I was wondering same for my kid if she needs a new helmet with FIS sticker on it for U16 in Canada this year. And that's after digging through various news/sites. As ZG said, I suspect Alpine Canada won't make any announcements till December :(

 

I agree that this is probably a good thing - assuming the new standard is safer than before. In other sports like motor racing, they use a "5-year system" where helmets are labeled "2010", "2015", etc. and regulations restrict use of helmets older than 5 years (e.g. can't use a 2005 helmet in 2011) and I believe most gives a 1-year grace period. Wonder why we don't use similar system for FIS. That would make life easier / more predictable. I am sure its to do with outcry for additional costs, but its your / skier's head...

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I was wondering same for my kid if she needs a new helmet with FIS sticker on it for U16 in Canada this year. And that's after digging through various news/sites. As ZG said, I suspect Alpine Canada won't make any announcements till December :(

 

I agree that this is probably a good thing - assuming the new standard is safer than before. In other sports like motor racing, they use a "5-year system" where helmets are labeled "2010", "2015", etc. and regulations restrict use of helmets older than 5 years (e.g. can't use a 2005 helmet in 2011) and I believe most gives a 1-year grace period. Wonder why we don't use similar system for FIS. That would make life easier / more predictable. I am sure its to do with outcry for additional costs, but its your / skier's head...

 

 

And in December you won't be able to find one because everyone will be out trying to get one and the stores will be out of them.  The only thing I can say, is I am certain that it will happen eventually so if you are considering a new helmet, bite the bullet and do it sooner than later so you get the one she wants, not the the one that is left.

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And in December you won't be able to find one because everyone will be out trying to get one and the stores will be out of them.  The only thing I can say, is I am certain that it will happen eventually so if you are considering a new helmet, bite the bullet and do it sooner than later so you get the one she wants, not the the one that is left.


Yeah I am thinking same but my daughter didn't like the new POC; the shape looks too ET-ish compared to the old ones :)

post #15 of 15

They are all larger now, regardless of brand because of increased padding compared to the old ones. We are quite partial to Shred which is a full shameless plug for the brand because my son is a Shred/Slytech sponsored athlete (at least I disclosed it :D )

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