Originally Posted by Ghost
A couple of things:
1) CTKook likes to argue, but I think after reading all his posts what he is really trying to say is that a focus on tipping the inside ski is not the only way to tip and engage the outside ski, and even more that many good skiers have learned to tip and engage both skis, including the outside ski without ever employing a deliberate focus on tipping the inside ski. I could of course be wrong, but IFF (mathematical term) that is what he is saying I agreee with him.
Why would you say that about a gent who stated his view pretty clearly, and actually has been eminently open-minded, which by the way is the rational approach, and suggest that he 'likes to argue' , what about all the characters screaming about 'initiating turns with the inside ski' , are they somehow 'sainted' , weird I must say, unnecessary. The fact that only a couple of real pros have joined the party speaks volumes, am surprised, while you say you agree with Mr. Kook, you do denigrate him in the opening sentence. And it's real professionals on the other end, right.
And yes, Canada's finest, Razie had a pretty wise suggestion somewhere up there in the noise, smoke , grenade explosions, perhaps there should be a separate forum, a new blog which should have a header "The School for Initiating turns by tipping the inside ski, The Fundamental & Primary move to make Expert turns while skiing all-mountain - how to do it, why you do it, and the only way to do it" and there will be only those who believe that, will most likely post, dissenters can be informed, they made a wrong turn, forum is about doing that better and that is it, settled, no rancor, no conflict, and when folks nod in unison, it's a sight to behold.
A lot of pushback has gone down, because you had some instructors (Well they say they are) and others insisted/implied/saw in very visual provided that there is only 'one true way' to turn a ski to be a master-practitioner of the art. It's fine, people can believe that, there would be no arguments, just better and better ways of learning to tip the inside ski to start your turns in races, and in all kinds of terrain. And no arguments, just fine education in that particular method : "The School for Initiating turns by tipping the inside ski, The Fundamental & Primary move to make Expert turns while skiing all-mountain - how to do it, why you do it, and it's the only way to do it" . And the thread starter and others should emphasize the entire thread is about skiing that way, and how to do it better that way.
Try it. It might be very popular, helpful and devoid of these weird and really off-base accusations of trolling. Even the Swede got a bit agitated ! That was funny actually, I burst out laughing reading that.
For the rest of the silent majority (not this time around, guilty as charged) of non-experts (a tribe am proud to carry their membership card), we will stumble our way down many mountains, and use both our skis ! Mostly the downhill one, but hey we might tip the inside one first too oops!
Just my experience folks who think there is only one way to do something or see something, well I wrote a speech about it up top, are entitled to that viewpoint.
Moved in with an edit as I missed this GEM ! Ghost, right up your alley, Canadian insight! (By the way, I do have a Canadian passport)
Originally Posted by Bogatyr
If he does this --- either he does it wrong or you see it wrong ....
I would HAVE to AGREE, he (Ted Ligety) DOES it wrong, 'you' (Atomicman) SEES it wrong! Perfect bulls-eye, B-man is deadeye William Tell with this brilliance
Edited by dustyfog - 7/10/15 at 3:53pm