Originally Posted by Atomicman
So how is that starting the turn with inside tipping ?? It's not!
Depends on what you mean by starting the turn and this sounds more and more like people trying to find fault with the words of a certain personality who is not here right now. I suggest that if you want argue his point of view you should go his forum and argue with him there.
This thread is supposed to be about tipping the inside ski to enhance engagement of the outside ski, which Ted clearly does quite a lot of in this montage, so I don't see the problem with it, its quite applicable here, even if his need to get over the 35m skis in time to carve the course is causing him to be slightly (and I mean VERY slightly) late with inside foot tipping. I have stated already on this thread I feel he is a bit late with it. Might be he could do better, or it might be that its not humanly possible to do so while also getting over the 35m ski to bend it and carve the course as he figured out how to do before everyone else a few years back.
From flat-netural on he is clearly leading with the inside tipping, and that is the whole point of this thread. Much ado about nothing has been made here about what ought to come first and why. Truthfully for most of us skiing all mountain, tipping it first will in fact be a better choice. Ted was going to extreme lengths to deal with the new skis and there are risks and rewards with his approach.
The way he releases from the old turn is very interesting. He does release his downhill leg with relaxation and even flexion. He does this simultaneously with leaning up the hill a little bit over the uphill ski, riding on the uphill LTE of that ski. With the turn forces present, the release of the downhill leg is enough to send him moving across and he is making damn well sure that he is balanced on the uphill ski as that happens so that as he passes neutral he will have engagement on the BTE of the outside ski. That is all great and fine and good, that is what we ultimately want right? Right around flat-netural he begins to aggressively tip the inside foot which is already lightened, even lifted in some cases and he continues to tip that foot like crazy all the way to the apex. That is right in line with what we are talking about.
The only difference between that and say what I might call more applicable for the rest of us, is that he is a bit late with tipping the inside ski, but once he starts tipping his inside ski it is clearly leading the effort to incline into the turn and that is the whole point.
What Ted is doing there is not easy, its very difficult and also I would like to say may only be applicable to GS sized turns on modern long radius skis. Most people that need to make medium and short radius turns will be a lot better served to tip the inside ski sooner. This technique is right in line with the thread topic, the only difference is that he is getting over it a bit out of long ski necessity and thusly a bit late with the inside tipping. IMHO.
Edited by borntoski683 - 7/7/15 at 5:09pm