Its pretty easy to find advocates of actively tipping the inside ski to its little toe edge to create strong edge engagement of the outside ski and I have some questions for them.
Is it necessary for the new outside ski to be pressured/engaged for the inside tipping to be effective?
If you answer yes to the above do you establish that pressure/engagement before, after or at edge change?
How do you describe establishing and maintaining that pressure/engagement to yourself and your students?
Thanks for any input. I'm trying to clarify my thoughts on what may be a change in my teaching concerning how we change direction.
It truly depends on the dynamics of the situations, in my mind. At slower speeds, you are dragging the hips Into the turn with a fairly engaged outside ski, but as speeds and energy ramps up, you are floating with little pressure for the most part, like zenny shows, with the skis and body moving their own ways and the dynamics are different. It is the same movement and focus though, you are now more concerned with creating large angles quickly and clearing the way with shortening the inside leg, in preparation for that apex, when the outside ski bends. To answer the question directly: no, you don't need to.
; releasing the old outside ski causes the new outside ski to take the weight (by the way they call it "transfer"). That transfer happens before engagement. There is a progression where at first the old outside ski is lifted and tipped, with later stages including a transition with both skis weighted.
I understand that it is a trick that the body has to do certain things to tip that inside foot and you will naturally therefore manage to get the outside ski tipped automatically for most folk. Not all; some folk are very good at short circuiting natural movements when following instructions to the letter (like me). First time nearly tripped me up, as I tipped the inside ski, but not the outside ski. Later, adjusting to also make sure I tipped the outside ski, I found it did indeed aid in acquiring higher edge angles. However I also got messed up once or twice when I devoted a lot of effort into tipping the inside ski without being ready to and issuing the command to really crank the outside ski too.
My initial trouble with this approach was that I started doing it in mid-turn, having a platform and it resulted in a very quick drop and finish of the turn which was unsettling initially... sounds much like what you're saying above.
A lot of slow speed practice will allow you to figure it out though.
As one who takes the lessons rather than give them, pulling the inside foot back as I shorten that leg seems to help me tip the inside ski on edge to engage the tip or hit that "sweet spot". Correct? As I was working on this at the end of last season, it felt like it caused the outside ski to engage on edge with the snow more naturally. I would then feel the pressure building in that outside leg through the turn. This was a new sensation for me. I suspect that I was previously turning my feet too much to initiate a turn with even pressure on both skis and then pushing on the outside leg to bend that ski rather than let the centripetal forces build pressure to bend my skis. I believe I've had this confusion because I still don't see how one can tip their ankle in a rigid ski boot to tip that ski. Its more intuitive to me to "pressure" my little toe or big toe to get pressure on the inside or outside edge of the respective ski. I think concentrating on pulling my inside foot back distracted me from pushing with my outside leg.
Just 2 cents from an intermediate trying to get off the plateau...
I found a good video attached here that is quite good: http://www.askicoach.com/w/ski/wiki/blog/We_ski_with_the_feet_and_ankles
Edited by razie - 6/16/15 at 3:46pm