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Tandem snowboarding video with little kids.

post #1 of 23
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Hard to believe anyone would do this with their little kids, but these guys do, and the girls seem to love it.

 

post #2 of 23
They do look to be having fun. I'm not one to judge but it looks like one if those things that's great as long as nothing goes wrong..
post #3 of 23
The stairs really alarm me.
post #4 of 23
Thread Starter 

If you watch some of the extreme sections in stop motion it seems clear to me that it's a doll.  The flip on the rail at 1:30 is definitely a doll.  Arms are locked in one position the whole way.

post #5 of 23
We should have known not to trust a couple of damn snowboarders. Doll aside, the fact they never sat in the middle of the trail for the entire 3.5 minute clip should've been another clue it was staged. wink.gif
post #6 of 23
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If you watch some of the extreme sections in stop motion it seems clear to me that it's a doll.  The flip on the rail at 1:30 is definitely a doll.  Arms are locked in one position the whole way.

I wondered about that, but didn't take the time to analyze it.
post #7 of 23
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If you watch some of the extreme sections in stop motion it seems clear to me that it's a doll.  The flip on the rail at 1:30 is definitely a doll.  Arms are locked in one position the whole way.


This is reassuring.  

post #8 of 23
Dude's good!
post #9 of 23

Not so sure it's a doll... article

post #10 of 23
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Not so sure it's a doll... article

That is impressive!

I'm still confident they cut out the sitting on the slope though. lol
post #11 of 23
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Not so sure it's a doll... article


I'm with you.  I'm not convinced that they substituted a doll for the tricky stuff.   Having seen some kids gymnastics I'm sure some kids have no fear of things like this.  

post #12 of 23

I wonder what mom thinks of all this.

post #13 of 23
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If you watch some of the extreme sections in stop motion it seems clear to me that it's a doll.  The flip on the rail at 1:30 is definitely a doll.  Arms are locked in one position the whole way.

 

Yeah, that one looks obvious, as does the long one-handed rail slide. Can't tell on the other tricks though, but I'd then assume doll, and he's having a big laugh over all this. 

post #14 of 23
Thread Starter 

There are two different guys in the video, I find it funny that people here and in the Youtube comments don't notice that, they look completely different.

 

There was a comment from a skier who knew these people and said there was no doll used.

 

Look at 1:30  slowly.  imo there is NO way that's not a doll, and no way that someone would put their kid at that much risk, no matter how good a rider they are.

post #15 of 23
That's part of the story. They each have a kid. No need to comment.
post #16 of 23

This "Mom" does not approve.

 

In some way I wish it were a doll... but when I look at the images, even slowly, it does not seem it is so. The rail along the steps seems the most dangerous to me (although I don't know that much about boarding tricks to be a good evaluator of relative risk) and the little one puts a foot out toward the end of the rail, suggesting a moving being, not a doll.

 

In a way it would be worse if it was a doll and they tried to pass it off for a live child, because that would be encouraging others to risk their kids doing something you yourself are not willing to do with your own.

 

I suppose it isn't that much more risky than folks I see skiing with even younger kids in hiking backpacks. If you fell down on your back with one of those, it'd be worse, since you'd be adding your own weight to the equation.

post #17 of 23
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In some way I wish it were a doll... but when I look at the images, even slowly, it does not seem it is so. 

 

I'd be absolutely stunned if the flip on the rail, and the slide down the rail on the steps, were not done with a doll. There's nothing lifelike about it.

 

On the slide down the stair rail (at about 0:42), he holds the "child", who's completely motionless and inflexible, with one hand like a waiter serving drinks. There's no motion of his arm when he lands that way - there's no weight there at all. The same on the flip as he grinds the rail (at 1:30) - the "child" wobbles and has a fixed motionless position. No way those are a real person. 

 

As you mentioned, there are other tricks where it's obviously a real little girl. But I think the intent of this video was exactly what you see here - to fool and/or get a rise out of people, or make a joke of it. There are obvious setups of similar motions with the little girl before the more dangerous stunts, which would further make you think they're really done with a girl. I'd guess that the big front flip and other stair rail grind are also with a doll, but no good way to tell on that.

 

All that said, some of the other tosses and things with what is obviously a real little girl could still be viewed negatively by folks I'd think. But the really dangerous stuff appears to be "faked". 

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In some way I wish it were a doll... but when I look at the images, even slowly, it does not seem it is so. 

 

I'd be absolutely stunned if the flip on the rail, and the slide down the rail on the steps, were not done with a doll. There's nothing lifelike about it.

 

On the slide down the stair rail (at about 0:42), he holds the "child", who's completely motionless and inflexible, with one hand like a waiter serving drinks. There's no motion of his arm when he lands that way - there's no weight there at all. The same on the flip as he grinds the rail (at 1:30) - the "child" wobbles and has a fixed motionless position. No way those are a real person. 

 

As you mentioned, there are other tricks where it's obviously a real little girl. But I think the intent of this video was exactly what you see here - to fool and/or get a rise out of people, or make a joke of it. There are obvious setups of similar motions with the little girl before the more dangerous stunts, which would further make you think they're really done with a girl. I'd guess that the big front flip and other stair rail grind are also with a doll, but no good way to tell on that.

 

All that said, some of the other tosses and things with what is obviously a real little girl could still be viewed negatively by folks I'd think. But the really dangerous stuff appears to be "faked". 

 

The goal was to make money, don't you think?  If it goes viral, they get cash.

 

Instructors are taught at my mountain to never ever put a small kid between the legs, since if the adult falls, the adult's body will hit and get tangled up with the kid.  I've seen many parents steadying their kids between their legs.  It's fine as long as the kid doesn't move unexpectedly in the wrong direction...which a 2-3-4 YO may very well do.

post #19 of 23
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The goal was to make money, don't you think?  If it goes viral, they get cash.

 

I suppose it could depending on how their account is set up. At the very least it's promotion for the ski shop that posted it.

post #20 of 23
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In some way I wish it were a doll... but when I look at the images, even slowly, it does not seem it is so. 

 

I'd be absolutely stunned if the flip on the rail, and the slide down the rail on the steps, were not done with a doll. There's nothing lifelike about it.

 

On the slide down the stair rail (at about 0:42), he holds the "child", who's completely motionless and inflexible, with one hand like a waiter serving drinks. There's no motion of his arm when he lands that way - there's no weight there at all. The same on the flip as he grinds the rail (at 1:30) - the "child" wobbles and has a fixed motionless position. No way those are a real person. 

 

As you mentioned, there are other tricks where it's obviously a real little girl. But I think the intent of this video was exactly what you see here - to fool and/or get a rise out of people, or make a joke of it. There are obvious setups of similar motions with the little girl before the more dangerous stunts, which would further make you think they're really done with a girl. I'd guess that the big front flip and other stair rail grind are also with a doll, but no good way to tell on that.

 

All that said, some of the other tosses and things with what is obviously a real little girl could still be viewed negatively by folks I'd think. But the really dangerous stuff appears to be "faked". 

 

The goal was to make money, don't you think?  If it goes viral, they get cash.

 

Instructors are taught at my mountain to never ever put a small kid between the legs, since if the adult falls, the adult's body will hit and get tangled up with the kid.  I've seen many parents steadying their kids between their legs.  It's fine as long as the kid doesn't move unexpectedly in the wrong direction...which a 2-3-4 YO may very well do.

Maybe but the goal could be to have fun. 

post #21 of 23

Must admit I like this one a whole lot better.  It shows off the kid's skills, not the Dad's.

By the end of the video this little guy is doing flat 360s.  Well worth the watch.

 

 


Edited by LiquidFeet - 6/9/15 at 10:21am
post #22 of 23
So I found this interview with the dad and he admits to "trick photography". Yet he is really serious about encouraging others to do this with their kids. Oh my!
post #23 of 23

If Fox News says it's true, then it must be "fair and balanced"!

 

Of all the upset little ones I've seen on the slopes, I've never seen one riding/skiing tandem that was pissed off. For parents with enough skill it is a path success.

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