Originally Posted by Sam Apoc
A little background info, I'm a 6'-0" 185 advanced skier with a racing background currently living near D.C. "Home mountain" is in WV. Past couple of years I've been riding my Fischer racestock slalom skis exclusively and now I'm looking for something to round out my quiver.
When I first started looking, I was initially drawn to the Bonafides and Mantras for their stiffness and ability to charge the whole mountain. However, the more I think about it, I think something more playful might be a better complement to the SL's. If it's going to be a day where there's nothing but ice or really solid hardpack and I'm not going to dip into the park at all, I've got the SL's for that.
So what I'm looking for essentially is something that will be fun to ski anywhere on the mountain. I want something stable enough for some wide arc-ing turns on groomers (since that's primarily what we have here), It has to be playful enough that I can take it in the park occasionally. It has to be quick enough that I could ski bumps and trees. And I'd like it to have enough width underfoot that I can take it to the northeast or the occasional trip out west and it can still hold its own (on something other that a big pow day). I definitely want traditional camber but am intrigued by the skis that combine this with slight tip/tail rocker.
Any thoughts on how the skis below would stack up for this? Any others I should consider? I also am wavering between the 177 and 184 lengths...
177/186 Atomic Theory
177/185 Nordica Soul Rider
177/184 K2 Shreditor 92 (or possibly 102?)
Or should I consider a stiff park ski like the Fischer Nightstick?
I've skied the Soulrider and Atomic Theory, but not the Shreditor 92. (I have tried the Shreditor 112 and 120, but those are soft snow specialists, the first a soft flex jibby carver, playful and good at switch, the second a one ski quiver for softer, Western snow - much stiffer but very versatile.)
The Soulrider has a great edge, if the snow is not really hard. It is playful, quick edge to edge; and if skied more upright, good at "some wide arc-ing turns on groomers." Driven forward, it excels at fast, controlled edge to edge fall line turns on groomers, no speed limit, for me (again, probably not on boilerplate and the like). It's good in bumps and trees, esp. in softer snow. At 95 at the waist, it's probably pretty good in some powder (but didn't try it there). A super ski, to me. (I too used to race, have two pairs of gs race skis, for out West. If I were back East, my go to ski would be an FIS slalom ski, probably a Volkl, Stockli, Atomic or Rossi.) The Soulrider smears or edge drives at will, playful. I'm a directional skier, but this ski makes me more playful; and I bet this ski would work for some park.
For me the Theory is a great ski but more limited. It is crazy good in Western bumps, good in trees, but has a speed limit, for me, otherwise. When I want to do slow to medium speed, do more technical turns, family skiing or bumps, the Theory is a blast. Not sure how it would do in the park, except fine at jumps.
Your desire for park use (meaning maybe "twin tip," to me) does probably eliminate many of the versatile all mountain skis I've enjoyed at 80 to 100 waist.
I too have heard great things about this ski, but haven't been on it. From the description, it has a stiff tail and a gs type fast turn on groomers (but with versatile turn size too). Not sure about it in the trees, or for more than occasional bumps, for me. In bumps I turn a lot, not straightline through them.