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Need your help deciding what all-mountain or freeride planks to go with... Thanks!!! [Australia]

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hi all,

 

Hoping you can help. I'm looking for a new go-anywhere ski.

 

I'm 5'11" and weigh 170 (or 77kg).  I ski in Australia (which is like skiing in eastern USA) and I'm a very good skier.  I'm 41 and I've been skiing since I was 12.

 

I like pretty much everything.  LOVE going flat stick on the groomers.  I'm always trying to lay trenches even when its been totally cut up.  But I also love getting off the carpet and into the chopped-up stuff, into the trees, and LOVE the powder when ever we get lucky enough to have some.

 

I like medium/long radius turns, nothing short. I don't ride park or pipe, and I ski moguls rarely these days.  

 

 

I've owned a bunch of skis.  Here are a few of the better ones but they go back a LONG way:

 

 - Dynastar 4X4 ATV's

 - Dynastar 4X4 Powertracks

 - Dynastar 4X4 Course (this was the only ski I've owned that I didn't get the maximum out of, at least without a lot of effort).

 

Now I'm in the market for some new all-mountain/freeride planks. 

 

I ski tested last year.  The Dynastar's were no chop, not for me anymore.  Broadly speaking, too soft/easy and not solid enough on edge or at speed.  The Volkl's were great.  Rode Mantra's, Kendo's and Bridge's.  Really liked them all actually, different but all good skis.  The Mantra's were unkind when not paying attention or getting in the back seat, but only had a couple of runs on them, and went hard.  Unfortunately Blizzard did not get involved in the demo days so I've not ridden any of their lot.

 

Given my weight (I'm not a big guy) what do you think I should be looking at?    I will get back to the tests in July this year but Blizzard won't be there again. 

 

What do you reckon...?  I only ever ride one set of skis.  I like to know everything my ride is capable of, and I don't swap often.

 

Thanks everyone!

 

Cheers,

Chrispy

post #2 of 21
If you liked the Dynastars but feel they've gotten a bit soft for your liking you should demo some Head skis. I also liked the older Dynastars, especially the Legend series and have come to love the Head skis. A lot of the same energy I loved about the Dynastars with more stabilty and firmness imo.

I'd look at the new Monster 88. I also think the Fischer Motive 86 ti is worth a look. Good luck!
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks mate. I tried the Head Rev last year and liked it a lot. Not super aggressive but smooth and quite powerful, with good grip.

I am still leaning towards a Brahma or Bonafide. I won't get to demo either ski and I'm a touch concerned the Bonafide would be too much ski for someone my weight (172). But I really want one!!!

Any advice...?
post #4 of 21
Yes, the Head Monster series. It' will have the bit of 'power' that you feel the Rev 85 is missing. If you really liked the Rev, I'll go out on a limb and say the Brahma isn't going to be your cup'pa. If you want a 98, the new Enforcer should be on your list for your weight, but I'd think you'd want something narrower for your venue. Money to burn? Kastle MX 83 or 88. Poor man's Kastle? We're back to the Monsters. smile.gif
post #5 of 21

What do you mean about "like the eastern USA"? Are we talking about like North Carolina or northern New England? How much vertical, how much typical snow, and what temperatures?

post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by bliz1978 View Post
 

What do you mean about "like the eastern USA"? Are we talking about like North Carolina or northern New England? How much vertical, how much typical snow, and what temperatures?

 

Australia... Probably more like New England if you moved the ski areas to Pennsylvania. Eastern Pennsylvania. I think he's saying essentially that it's generally pretty firm and scratchy with some new snow from time to time, and a fair amount of freeze thaw. 

post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 
Spot on. Mainly firm with a fair bit of time on groomers. The off-piste stuff is generally chopped up snow a few days old. Powder is generally pretty rare, and not deep or really light/dry. It never gets super cold here.
post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Yes, the Head Monster series. It' will have the bit of 'power' that you feel the Rev 85 is missing. If you really liked the Rev, I'll go out on a limb and say the Brahma isn't going to be your cup'pa. If you want a 98, the new Enforcer should be on your list for your weight, but I'd think you'd want something narrower for your venue. Money to burn? Kastle MX 83 or 88. Poor man's Kastle? We're back to the Monsters. smile.gif

Do you mind if I ask why you think the Brahma's wouldn't be good for me. I liked the Rev's but I liked a range of skis, none of which I would buy. I'm just really interested in your view.

Thanks
post #9 of 21
Thread Starter 
I've just done some more reading about the Head Monster 88. Sounds terrific for me. I have always skied long planks, but would you recommend a 177 or 184 in the M88? 184 would be my initial thought.

Thanks
post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by cadnams View Post

I've just done some more reading about the Head Monster 88. Sounds terrific for me. I have always skied long planks, but would you recommend a 177 or 184 in the M88? 184 would be my initial thought.

Thanks

I'd have probably said 177 for your size but you could get by with either.
post #11 of 21
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I've just done some more reading about the Head Monster 88. Sounds terrific for me. I have always skied long planks, but would you recommend a 177 or 184 in the M88? 184 would be my initial thought.

Thanks

 

Ski the same length as the Rev 85 you liked. 

post #12 of 21
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Ski the same length as the Rev 85 you liked. 

You probably know better than me, but you don't think 184 will be a bit long in the trees for someone who's 170ibs?
post #13 of 21
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You probably know better than me, but you don't think 184 will be a bit long in the trees for someone who's 170ibs?

Depends a lot on the ski.  I'm 150 pounds, 5'7" and will be skiing 184cm ON3P Billy Goats as my deep snow ski next season.  They have quite a bit of rocker so effective edge is only about 140cm.

post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I do. I just have a mental thing about skis under 180. Not sensible I know.

I've dropped quite a bit of weight over where I was two years ago, so a 177 might be the better option.
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by Coach13 View Post

You probably know better than me, but you don't think 184 will be a bit long in the trees for someone who's 170ibs?

Yes, I do. 177 would be better.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

Depends a lot on the ski.  I'm 150 pounds, 5'7" and will be skiing 184cm ON3P Billy Goats as my deep snow ski next season.  They have quite a bit of rocker so effective edge is only about 140cm.


Agree on this for soft snow skis with early rise; my 188 Super 7's are silly easy in trees and I'm 165. But suspect Head mid-fats are another story. My old iM88's needed concentration in tight places; think they were high 170's or 180. 

post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Depends a lot on the ski.  I'm 150 pounds, 5'7" and will be skiing 184cm ON3P Billy Goats as my deep snow ski next season.  They have quite a bit of rocker so effective edge is only about 140cm.

Agreed. I was speaking specifically of the M88.
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
OK. I'm narrowing the options.

Blizzard Brahma (in a 180cm) or the Head Monster 88 (in a 177cm).

For those who've skied both, what are the characteristics? Am I right in thinking the M88 will be a touch more forgiving than the lime green long-horn?
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by cadnams View Post

OK. I'm narrowing the options.

Blizzard Brahma (in a 180cm) or the Head Monster 88 (in a 177cm).

For those who've skied both, what are the characteristics? Am I right in thinking the M88 will be a touch more forgiving than the lime green long-horn?

Different, and at your weight, yes, maybe a bit more forgiving. The head feels smooth and stable, the Brahma, a wee high strung, but I'm hesitant to tell you which to pick, but both good skis.
post #20 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks a lot everyone. Definitely helped my decision.

Now, might need to go shopping...!
post #21 of 21

The Blizzards could well be at the demo weekends this year.  They've turned up at the Thredbo weekends in the past.  A demo is in order as the Brahma, Bonafide etc. are laid up with Blizzard's flipcore construction and have a slightly different feel.  Some people adore them (my GF for instance) and others not so much (i.e. myself).  The only way to be sure is to try them.

 

The skiMag demo weekend in Thredbo this year is 11/12 July.  The Hotham weekend is July 25/26.

 

If you're only going to own one pair of skis I think 78-88mm in the waist is about the sweet spot for an all mountain ski in local conditions.  A bit of early rise in the tip can help when "getting off the carpet".  I could list my preferred options but just about all manufacturers make skis (at least two, and likely more) that fit into that category.  It's a matter of finding what works for you.  

 

Ski design and materials have changed so much over the years your love of Dynastars from back in the day won't carry much weight as a point of reference.  It's a matter of trying a few skis to work out what you like.  You can try six pairs of skis and it will be: "these are ok", "hate these for some reason", "these are dull", "these are ok", "really like these" ... and then suddenly "wow! I really love these".  About then you can stop looking.  The differences might be slight, and might be hard to describe precisely, but if you try enough skis you'll find the ones.

 

Not sure where you ski locally but feel free to PM me if you wish and I can give you details about the Thredbo demo weekend.  In general it's around a dozen manufacturers, each with around 6 - 10 mens skis available to try.

 

Best of luck.

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