Originally Posted by LiquidFeet
foot steering is possible. But it's weak.
Fulcrum turning is strong and manageable meaning we can modulate how fast or slow and how strong or subtle we apply torque to the ski.
Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
All of the effort to define carving, how about defining pivoting vs. steering?
I have defined this many times, PURE pivoting is twisting the skis across the direction of travel with NO direction change ie: pivot slips, a very challenging task but a great exercise to practice for skiing versatility.
Steering as classically defined as a blend of edging (sagittal plane) and pivoting (transverse plane) to produce a skidded turn
Pure carving, is edging without pivoting.
Now days some are trying to blur the line between carving and steering with the "brushed carve" which is from my experience to date a skidded arc just inside of a full carve which does employ a slight bit of pivoting though the perpetrators are sworn not to admit it exists by insisting it is strictly a lateral movement. Although it may not contain a perceptible pivoting element as the action is/can be quite passive because of the self steering characteristics of the modern skis. Unless of course someone here can explain how a ski that it's tip and tail displace the exact same amount will somehow turn?
Originally Posted by Ghost
The way I see it, pivoting is a subset of steering.
If you stand still on flat snow with your skis flat to the snow and pointing dead ahead (12 o'clock) and then twist your feet so that you do not move forward but your skis are now pointing at 1, 2, or 3 o'clock you have pivoted your skis.
If you stand still on flat snow with your skis flat to the snow and pointing dead ahead (12 o'clock) and then tip your skis onto their left edges and they are still pointing at 12 o'clock, you have not pivoted your skis.
Ok, so are we standing still here? because if we are, I don't think the skis would pivot rather the upper body would. Now add some forward motion going down the fall line and a skillful skier able to accurately control edge angle and using the fulcrum turning mechanism would be able to twist the skis without a direction change.
Now if we are moving forward down the fall line and tip the ski on edge, you will need to counter balance just to keep from falling over and you will begin to arc and haul ass.
Now in between those two extreme opposite ends of the spectrum lives STEERING, with all it's shades of gray to produce a cornucopia of turn shapes desired.
and they lived happily ever after. the end! haha
Edited by bud heishman - 11/10/15 at 3:53pm