Originally Posted by loki1
You don't think a skier making a wedge christie can be in balance?
I didn't say that lok, I think maybe you said this:
When they have developed the lateral balance to do so. After the wedge christie phase.
As to your other comments:
At what stage do you start to teach balancing over the outside ski while releasing the downhill ski?
Day 1. If you teach them to find pressure and balance on the outside ski you are teaching them to do it. If you teach them to avoid blocking the downhill ski (like as in stem christie), then you are teaching the release. it can all be taught on the very first day, but as I have said numerous times already, including on this thread, different students take a slightly different journey on those first few days.
Which at that point is the same ski by the way.
I have no idea what you mean by this
Do you teach a wedge turn at all?
Most of the time yes. As I said earlier, some students are able to buzz past it in the first few hours of skiing. Most are not. DTP, in my opinion requires special terrain which is not always available for all but the most gifted students. I teach a wedge mainly because the terrain situation requires it and I want to get them riding a chairlift and linking some turns safely down the hill within a few hours. However, once they are doing that I begin immediately their journey to learning parallel skiing. With the right terrain I am happy to go directly to parallel also, but I find a wedge for that first day is more enjoyable for most people as it gets them skiing. However, in my opinion once they are safely making wedge turns on their crutch, so to speak, the journey should shift IMMEDIATELY to learning to ski parallel before they develop wedge-itis...IMHO. Wedge skiing, in my view is about the equivalent of bull fighter turns. its just a stepping stone to where we really want to be, don't dwell on it.
IT would be interesting to see what your progression is from never ever through to parallel.
In my opinion there is no such thing as one single progression for never evers. Every student or set of students is a bit different. Every terrain situation at different mountains is a bit different. You have to take every student at whatever level of natural talent they have, whatever terrain, whatever fear issues, whatever equipment issues, etc...and find a way to get them to ski down, make some turns and hapyp smiles as quickly as possible. Ideally you want to do that without giving them too much wedge-itis, so parallel skiing should be the plan and there is no reason on modern equipment to delay that more than a few days.
For some of them I have seen that happen in one hour. For others it takes a few days, but still, we should not dwell on wedge related skiing as an end in and of itself. It is really only a means to get them standing up on skis, feel what its like to slid around, find balance, stop themselves, ride the chairlift, link some turns... parallel skiing and everything related to parallel skiing can come very quickly after that...but if you ingrain too much wedge-itis, then parallel skiing will NOT come quickly.