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post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
I've been thinking a lot about bump skis lately and their apparent lack of versitility.

Reading the manufacturer's pages (which I know are mostly marketing hype), I've found it's very rare for a ski company to isolate a ski as having a specific, single use. Even full-bore race skis are hyped as being for "gate bashing racers or experts carving on hardpack." Twin tips are billed as "excellent for the park, the pipe, or just having fun all over the mountain." Fat powder skis can "get you through the hardpack, bumps and crud until you find the freshies."

However, the only ski I've found that is billed as having a single use is the latest generation of bump skis. Additionally, in most, if not all, of the skier reviews of bump skis I've read, the reviewer agrees and says something like "if you don't spend 90%+ of your time in the bumps, stay away from this ski."

If my memory serves, bump skis made before the shape ski revolution (or would that be evolution?) were based on a wood-cored slalom ski. I remember those skis being billed as all mountain short turners that excel in the bumps. I'm thinking of the Rossi 4S-M, the Dynastar Vertical, The Hart F-17, and a few others.

So I guess the reasons that today's bump skis are so bump-specific could be one of two things:

1. Something in the design of bump skis or bump skiing style has changed drastically, making them indeed single use.
2. Today's all-mountain shaped skis are SO versitile that, by comparison, bump skis are extremely specific.

Any thoughts?

NOTE: Yes, despite everyone here's excellent advice on skis, I'm still considering buying a pair of bump skis. I don't compete and certainly don't spend 90% of my day in the bumps any more but my gear addiction has taken control of my mind and is making me think I need two pairs of skis next season...Rossi Bandit XXX and a pair of bumpers. Stupid? yeah.
post #2 of 8
Kev- This is just a stupid guess, but isn't a good bump ski going to be relatively flexible in the tip with a bit stiffer tail with the tail not quite as wide as the tip so it doesn't catch?

Life's a pain... then you nap. Cat philosphy
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
Not at all a stupid guess, and my point exactly. The advertised and reported construction and shape of a bump ski seem to me to be a pretty good all-around ski...so why all the insistence that bump skis are solely for the bumps?
post #4 of 8
Probably to sell more bumb skis! Maybe ther are different flex specs to them; where along the ski they start to get stiffer, amount of progression of flex, or who da hell knows?

Life's a pain... then you nap. Cat philosphy
post #5 of 8
It is the lack of versatility due to the dimensions of the ski.
A bump specific will measure 89/63/87
compare that to a mid of 108/70/96.
post #6 of 8
Just buy a good straight pair of slalom skis in like 190cm (if you can find one) You could probably get a pair with bindings for about $50. Too bad that Atomic 9.34 has that plate on it because those are easy to find in shorter lengths and would probably be good in the bumps w/o plate. With 34m radius it's pretty straight.
Having said that I saw a pair of Atomic team bump skis (must have been a few years old. Had cartoons on them)brand new on ebay. I think they sold for less than 150$.
post #7 of 8
So that's why my K2 FX Extremes were called a bump ski! I still have them. 185's. Very stable at high speed. 11.2 side cut but narrow at the waist. Double layer of wood under the boot area with a slippery layer of stuff inbetween. The faster you go the wood layers separate giving a smoother ride. Also during a turn teh top layer slides outward. Coming out of a turn it snaps back giving an incredible rebound effect. It was called the ISS system. But I had to go to the Mod X; couldn't pass them up. I have the FX's on the for sale thread but no takers. Now that I corrected my boots, perhaps I should drop some other bindings on them and spring ski them.

Life's a pain... then you nap. Cat philosphy
post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the info.

What I'm probably going to do is pick up a pair of Dynastar Assaults for cheap ($300) and remount my Markers on them. Or I'll try a pair of 1080 Moguls when they're available in CA. I'll ski them in the Fall and if I'm disappointed with the all mountain performance, I'll pick up a pair of Axis X's with new bindings.
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