I have them in a 182. I got them for softer snow but I was really surprised how good they were on hardpack. They really do just about everything well on hardpack, they carve great and are plenty stable. They are really good at carving GS turns at speed, but really wasn’t that difficult to fire off short radius turns either. They grip ice good, and even have a little pop out of the turn which kind of surprised me since they have a fairly soft flex. I don’t ski bumps that often, but I found I could really boogie through the bumps. They really blast through crud and loose snow nice too. The only snow I didn’t really like them in was deep pow. They seemed too turny for me. They were really nice on the steeps, but in more wide open spaces I felt it was hard to get speed up and make GS turns, if I got my weight forward at all, the tips wanted to dive and hook. I skied in about 20” of fresh snow at Mammoth, and I felt I really had problems with the tips hooking and getting my weight right. It could be that it’s just a matter of getting used to the ski and adjusting my balance, but I kept wishing I had Atomic bindings that I could move back, or a longer ski. When I compared the ski to my 177 Volkl’s, it was about ½-3/4” shorter from the front of the boot to the ski tip, so I thought that might be why it skied short, but they certainly felt just right on hardpack. I weigh 165 so I thought I would get enough float with these, but maybe I just need a wider ski, when I measured these, they measure 2mm narrower than Dynastar claims. I measured them at 111-72-97, they said they base their measurements on the 188 length. I would be interested to hear if anybody else had the same impression in deep snow, or if anybody has tried the 188, I would be really interested in how that length skis. It seems like most of the reviews I read tested the 188’s.