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Boot fit question - cold toes?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I did a search and couldn't find any other thread with this question.

I tried on my boots in a warm room. My feet & toes felt warm while they were on, but my toes were cold to the touch when I took them off. There was no redness, and the rest of my foot was warm. I didn't try this last season, so I don't know if this happened when I had them fit.

The boots are "Lange L10 Race Team"s. I have narrow feet and scrawny legs. The buckles were not done up tightly. Stock liner and footbed.

Should I have my boots re-fit, or is this normal?
post #2 of 15
Thread Starter 
And it just started snowing here [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #3 of 15
It may seem like a stupid question, but I shall ask it anyway:
How warm did your toes feel before you put them in the boots?
Also, how long were they in the boots for?

post #4 of 15
you may be putting the boots on a bit tight, and cutting off the circulation?
post #5 of 15
The L-10 Team is a junior boot. Is it possible that your feet have grown just a bit over the summer?

You may get by with a lighter sock, my son and I go through this stuff all the time.

A trip to your local shop where you bought em' may help if they can fit you with one of the less expensive foot beds. Something like superfeet or a $69 dollar heat formable.

May be just time for new boots and at your age that may be every year. For that matter, this year I leased my sons boots for $100 instead of buying them.
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
I'm 17 (VERY LIGHT), so I'm not sure if my feet are still growing are not. My weight hasn't changed since last year. My toes were not cold when I put the boots on.

I'll try some thinner socks. I don't know any stores around Toronto that do the footbed thing. Thanks [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #7 of 15
Hey .... Cold feet, my daily battle. I too am in a set of L10 race, I am a female, so cold hands and feet used to be my daily battle. I fit ski boots for a living, and from my own experience, I have found that 1. if you do not wear a helmet, convert...the warmer your head, the more warm everything else will be. 2. thinner the sock the better. One normal days here which is about 15' I wear nothing but the thinest liner available, and you might not believe this, but when my feet are just frozen, I drop the sock totally. But what it sounds like to me is that since your toes are the only cold thing and nothing else, that means circulation is being cut off. So what size boot are you in and what size shoe are you, are you in a proformance fit? There is a major nerve that runs through the back of the calf, if you have chicken legs like I do, I tend to tighten my boots too tightly around the calf. Hope this helps, if your problem does not improve, go see a boot doctor for some tweeking.... It is most likely your fit.
post #8 of 15
Do your Teams have the heat formable liner. It may not have had to had time to "adjust" all by itself as it supposed to do.

Try having the shop reheat it to adjust for that bit of growth or additional bulk and muscle you may have gained.

Patagonia makes a Capiline sock/liner for about $13. Very thin and it's wickable stuff.
post #9 of 15
I put surefoot thotics in my boots and the 3 days I've used them my feet have been considerably warmer.
post #10 of 15
Adam S:

Try Corbetts in Oakville on Speers Rd., just west of Dorval Street. These guys are the best around. Ask for Rob. He helped me with footbeds a few years ago. Skiis & Bikes in Mississauga, just west of Hwy. #27 on Hwy. #5 (Dundas St) is good too.

A little experience one of my young friends had. We went to Mont-Saint-Anne a few years ago. He was 18 at the time and was skiing on last years boots. It took him all day to realize his boots were now too small. He was cutting off the circulation to his toes. A larger pair of boots solved his problems.

Just another point: Our feet continue to grow into adulthood albeit very slowly.

Keep skiing faster! :

post #11 of 15
Adam, I think FlopFlapFly answered your question about the need to get refitted. At 18 you probably are still growing, and that includes your feet, so going to a good boot fitter, as was suggested, is a good idea.

Langs have been notorius for leeks and cold feet over the years. Also you might be ready for some new boots. I would suggest custom footbeds and boot alignemnt as part of the process.

Finally, go for the best boot fit first, regardless of who the boot maker might be.
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
little red - Got a helmet, love it on cold days. New socks are on the shopping list. I can't tell what size my shoes are, but the liners say 9-9.5. I'll loosen the top 2 buckles a bit this time I try this.

yuki - Boots were molded, I'll see if the sport-chek much closer to home will re-heat them for me. Thanks for the sock suggestion. What do you mean by "adjust"? I got about 14 full days in last season, and I thought they would have packed in by now.

Ski Monkey - I've seen those before. I'll check them out.

FlipFlopFly & wink - I got the boots at Corbetts [img]smile.gif[/img] Did the heat molding thing. If the L10s became too small, I've got an extra pair of Salomon ETeam rear-entry boots

Thanks peoples!
post #13 of 15
If you are looking for some other shops that do footbeds in and around Toronto, you might want to try Kenmark Snow Sports in Richmondhill, Sign of the Skier in Toronto (Lawrence and Yonge Area), Sporting Life (all locations), Senecal Ski Shop in Newmarket or the new Skiis & Bikes by Don Mills and Eglington.

My personal experince is that Sporting Life charges quite a bit of money for footbeds, but they do a decent job. If you go to Kenmark, ask for Tommy - the best boot fitter I have ever dealt with period. He's been fitting boots for 25 years and charges only for the footbeds themselves, nothing for time and labour as some other shops do. Over the last 5 years, I have converted 10 people to his services and all swear by him.

Hope everything works out.
post #14 of 15
My understanding of the Lange liner is that you get an initial fit by heating the liner. Additionally, the liner will "adjust", over time, under "cold/normal" conditions, that is, as you are wearing it.

Since you may have added a bit of mass over the last five months, the liner may need a "hot shot" to account for the growth. Had you been skiing the boot all summer it would have adjusted slowly to the growth.

Also, have the shop check the shell size. Our local shop was going to fit my son with the Lange Team. They indicated that they could possibly get an extra season out of the boot by just changing liners since "two sizes" fit the same shell.
post #15 of 15
the lange is a med to low volume boot overt the instep, and more of the blood for the foot goes over the instep, so no blood flow = cold toes (that why they are cold, with the boots on inside)
Go to a boot fitter and get more volume over the instep, or the foot bed ground down lower, and where the thinest sock you can find (Ulitmax, ultralight ski sock or silk)
reheating won't help as the boot is packed ou to your foot, heating helps at the start.
good CUSTOM (not just trim to fit) footbeds can help this and other fit issues too,
Good luck
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