Don't know about the twin tips jim. forgot to ask the guy at the shop. Just figure that since the rumored short 10EX's showed up, MAYBE the rumored twin tips won't be far behind. I'd like a pair of 177 10ex's but since I'm mainly on the groomed their hard to justify. Probably getting some 9.22's or 10.20 instead. I'll let you know if I see any twins.