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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hi, i´m new in epic ski. 

I recently bought 2 pair ok skis:
-Völkl 724 ax4

And these....
I would like to have, if you know, some information about these skis:

Exact model?
Year of fabrication?
Aprox price, when they where realeased? Or exact if you know
Category? General opinion? Level?

Thanks a lot to eeveryone and for recieveng me!
PD: I heard that the 724 ax4 are real good all mountain skis, is this real?




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I would like to ask, if you know, information about these skis.

Model?
Year of fabrication?
Price of release?
Category? general opinion of the skis?






 

post #2 of 13

Looks like 2002 Volkl Carver Motion.  Real skiers gave it "Cruiser of the year". 

Although 13 years old, and therefore not very valuable, it should make a good carving ski for anyone intermediate and up.  Just don't expect it to deliver the same grip and stability at high speeds as the racing skis from that same year.

 

Real skiers has a review of it in the member's ($20 subscription IIRC) section.

post #3 of 13
All I can find is a reference on a Japanese site that has a picture with the word "motion" in the same font as in your picture. 2001 ski, so not worth anything now. Here is the link, Google translate was not a big help. Measurements are 107/65/95.

Bindings, I'm sure are no longer indemnified.

Most of us would toss them.
post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

All I can find is a reference on a Japanese site that has a picture with the word "motion" in the same font as in your picture. 2001 ski, so not worth anything now. Here is the link, Google translate was not a big help. Measurements are 107/65/95.

Bindings, I'm sure are no longer indemnified.

Most of us would toss them.


Not me.  I would ski them.  They should ski very similar to the Volkl Porsches that my daughter has, a great pair of skis for improving carving skills.

post #5 of 13
We just need some kind of a "Yard Sale" forum to cluster these kinds of posts.

Gestrutz, both pairs of skis are on the old side. If you have them tuned and have the bindings checked by a professional they should ski okay. Hope you didn't pay much for either of them.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

Looks like 2002 Volkl Carver Motion.  Real skiers gave it "Cruiser of the year". 
Although 13 years old, and therefore not very valuable, it should make a good carving ski for anyone intermediate and up.  Just don't expect it to deliver the same grip and stability at high speeds as the racing skis from that same year.

Real skiers has a review of it in the member's ($20 subscription IIRC) section.

Yes. Everyone should always ski on race skis.
post #7 of 13

Ghost is correct, 2001 or 2002 Carver Motion.  I owned them and skied them for a few years when I was an intermediate skier.  Good ski.

 

As mentioned one issue is if the bindings are usable and whether a shop would adjust them to your boots now if they're too old.

 

Good ski, but a 13 year old ski has little value.

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

All I can find is a reference on a Japanese site that has a picture with the word "motion" in the same font as in your picture. 2001 ski, so not worth anything now. Here is the link, Google translate was not a big help. Measurements are 107/65/95.

Bindings, I'm sure are no longer indemnified.

Most of us would toss them.

 

Most biometric toe Markers are still indemnified. I don't see "Motion 1200" on the 2014/2015 list, but I see a ton of 1200 model bindings that I know have that toe, so it may be that the official name of the binding is not Motion 1200..

 

I agree that the ski isn't really worth anything.  I pick up carving skis of this vintage for rock ski duty at the ski swap, and never pay more than $20 for a pair with indemnified bindings.  I've picked up a 2004 set of Volkl 5 stars for $10 (with the same bindings as on the OP's skis), a set of Atomics for $20, A Salomon Pilot something or other from around 2002 for $10, and a ski I turned out to really like, a 2001 Volant T3 Power for $10.

 

That doesn't mean older skis aren't fun to ski and can't be a good budget ski (I commonly recommend folks go this route when they first buy equipment, as when they get to be better skiers their preferences usually change- and spending real money on that first pair is commonly a waste).

 

But, spending much more than $50 on skis like this is entering ripoff territory.

post #9 of 13
The "Motion" applies to the ski. I THINK the bindings were system bindings, however, so that's why it's on the binding..

On the 13-14 binding list, under Marker/Volkl Retail, it's not there:

post #10 of 13

They are system bindings.  I actually destroyed the skis trying to take the bindings off years ago.  Didn't realize they didn't come off.  Used those skis as a way to learn to file edges after I'd destroyed them taking off the bindings.  Still have them in fact.

post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

The "Motion" applies to the ski. I THINK the bindings were system bindings, however, so that's why it's on the binding..

On the 13-14 binding list, under Marker/Volkl Retail, it's not there:

 

You need to look under Marker/Volk Non Current Retail Line. It shows several variations of Motion 1200. Not clear if that is the specific binding on the skis in question, but I know several variations of that toe from the same vintage are indemnified and think that binding *probably* is, at least as of last season.

 

Of course, the individual would need to have the binding checked by the local shop to find out if they would work on it.

post #12 of 13
The following is from a website trying to accumulate the 14-15 list, which I have not find anywhere else:
Quote:
MARKER

2014-2015 Duke EPF 16, Baron EPF 13, Jester 18 Pro, Jester 16, Griffon 13, Lord SP14, Squire 11, Jester Schizo 16, Griffon Schizo 13, Squire Schizo 11, Jester 16 Demo, Griffon 13 Demo, Squire 11 Demo, Free Ten, M 7.0 Free 85mm, F12 Tour EPF, F12 Tour, F10 Tour, Comp 20.0 EPS, Race Xcell 16, Race Xcell12, M 10.0 Comp EPS, 12.0 Glide Control D System, 11.0 Glide Control D System, M 11.0 TC EPS, 10.0 EPS.

2014-2015 Junior Bindings: M 7.0 EPS, W 4.5 EPS

2014-2015 Rental Bindings: 10.0 Fastrak III System, M7.0 Fastrak II System, M 4.5 Fastrak II System, M 7.0 RTL, M 4.5 RTL

2013-2014 Duke EPF L, Duke EPF S, Baron EPF L, Baron EPF S, Jester 18 Pro, Jester, Griffon, 12.0 Glide Control D System, 11.0 Glide Control D System, 10.0 EPS, M 7.0 EPS, M 4.5 E, Marker Lord SP, Squire 110, Squire 11, Jester Schizo, Griffon Schizo, Squire Schizo, Free Ten, M 7.0 FREE, F 12 TOUR EPF S, F 12 TOUR EPF L, F12 TOUR S, F12 TOUR L, F10 TOUR S, F10 TOUR L, COMP 20.0 EPS, Race Xcell 16, Race Xcell 12, 12.0 TC COMP D-System, M 10.0 COMP E

2013-2014 Rental 10.0 Fastrak III System, 10.0 Fastrak III, M 7.0 Fastrak II System L, M 4.5 Fastrak II System S, M4.5 Fastrak II System, Jester Demo, Griffon Demo, Squire Demo

2012-2013Duke EPF L, Duke EPF S, Baron L, Baron S, Jester 18 Pro, Jester, Griffon, Squire, Jester Schizo, Griffon Schizo, Squire Schizo, Comp 20.0 EPS, Comp 16.0 EPS, 12.0 TC Comp D-System, 12.0 TC Comp EPS, M 10.0 EPS, F12 Tour S, F12 Tour L, F10 Tour S, F10 Tour L, M 7.0 Free, Free Ten, 12.0 Glide Ctrl D-System, 11.0 Glide Ctrl D-System, M 10.0 Contact Control SI, 10.0 EPS, M 7.0 EPS, M 4.5 EPS

2012-2013 Rental 10.0 Fastrak III, 10.0 Fastrak III System, M 7.0 Fastrak II System L, M 7.0 Fastrak II L, M 4.5 Fastrak II System S, M 4.5 Fastrak II S, M 7.0 RTL, M 4.5 RTL, Jester Demo, Griffon Demo, Squire Demo

Older Marker, still indemnified: COMP 16.0 EPS, COMP 12.0 EPS, M10.0 CCSI, BARON, TOUR 12, DUKE, M11.0 TC CCSI, 10.0 FREE, 12.0 FREE, M11.0 FREE TC, M11.0 FREE, M7.0 EC 10, M10.0 ATTIVA CCSI, M10.0 JR COMP CCSLX, 12.0 TC PISTON CONTROL TURBO, 12.0 TC PISTON CONTROL, M11.0 TC CCSLX, M11.0 CCSI, 14.0 FREE, 12.0 TWIN CAM GLIDE CONTROL, M11.0 TWIN CAM PISTON CONTROL, M11.0 TITANIUM L-TECH CONTACT CONTROL SI, COMP 14.0 PISTON CONTROL TURBO, COMP 14.0 FREE, COMP 14.0 EPS, TITANIUM 13.0 PISTON CONTROL TURBO, TITANIUM 12.0 PISTON CONTROL TURBO, TITANIUM 12.0 PISTON CONTROL, TITANIUM 12.0 GLIDE CONTROL XI, TITANIUM 12.0 FREE, TITANIUM 12.0 EPS, M1200 CONTACT CONTROL, M11.0 TITANIUM PISTON CONTROL, M11.0 TITANIUM CONTACT CONTROL SLX, M11.0 CONTACT CONTROL SLX, TITANIUM 13.0 PISTON CONTROL IBX, M11.0 TITANIUM CONTACT CONTROL SLI, M1100 CONTACT CONTROL SLI, M1100 CONTACT CONTROL SLX, M1100 CONTACT CONTROL SI, M1100 FREE, M1000 CONTACT CONTROL SI, M1000 JR COMP CONTACT CONTROL SLX, M1000 JR COMP EPS, M900 EPS, M700 EC10, M700 EPS, M450 EPS, TITANIUM 12.0 PISTON CONTROL IBX, M1000JR COMP EPS, M1000 JR COMP CONTACT CONTROL SLI, M 11.0 TITANIUM IBC, S12 TI ENERGY TRACK, S11 TI ENERGY TRACK, S10 ENERGY TRACK, MRR COMP 1500, MRR FREE, COMP 1400 PISTON CONTROL, COMP 1400 EPS, COMP 1400 FREE, TITANIUM 1300 IBC, TITANIUM 1300 PISTON CONTROL, TITANIUM 1200 PISTON CONTROL, TITANIUM 1200 EPS, TITANIUM 1200 FREE, M1100 TITANIUM IBC, M1100 TITANIUM CCXI, M1000 CC, M1000 EC10, M1000 JR COMP CCXI, COMP 1400 GLIDE CONTROL, TITANIUM 1300 GLIDE CONTROL, TITANIUM 1200 GLIDE CONTROL, MRR RACING EC14, MRR RACING EPS, M1000 EPS

Marker Demo Bindings: JESTER DEMO, GRIFFON DEMO, SQUIRE DEMO, 12.0 GLIDE CONTROL, 11.0 GLIDE CONTROL, M10.0 FASTRAK 3, M4.5 FASTRAK 2, M7.0 FASTRAK 2, M7.0 RTL, M4.5 RTL

Older Marker Demo Bindings, still indemnified: M10.0 FASTRAK 2, M11.0 TC SPEED POINT, M9.0 SPEED POINT, M12.0 TC SPEED POINT, COMP 16.0 IBC, M12.0 IBC, M11.0 IBC, M7.0 SPEED TUNE, M4.5 SPEED TUNE, TITANIUM 12.0 PISTON CONTROL IBX DEMO, COMP 1400 SPEED POINT, TITANIUM 12.0 SPEED POINT, M11.0 TITANIUM SPEED POINT, COMP 14.0 PISTON CONTROL IBX DEMO, TITANIUM 1200 SP DEMO, M1100 TITANIUM SP DEMO, M1000SP, M900 SPEED POINT DEMO, M1100 IBC, M1000 IBC, M1000 RTL, M700 SPEED TUNE, M450 SPEED TUNE, M700 RTL, M450 RTL

Information above provided directly by Marker

The 13-14 list has 1200s listed, but not Motion 1200, even though it has Piston Motion 1200 and Titanium Motion 1200, but those words are not on the binding. And there are no Motions on the list above.
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

The following is from a website trying to accumulate the 14-15 list, which I have not find anywhere else:
The 13-14 list has 1200s listed, but not Motion 1200, even though it has Piston Motion 1200 and Titanium Motion 1200, but those words are not on the binding. And there are no Motions on the list above.

 

This was the first list I came to- which does not list any of the Volkl System bindings.

 

I think the OP's best bet is to take the ski to a shop, or maybe a couple, and see whether they will work on them.

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