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post #61 of 80
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post #62 of 80
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Originally Posted by rykennedy55 View Post

I know Vail/Epic gets a decent bit of hate on here, but the pass is good enough of a deal that I'm probably going to get the teen Epic local. I'm definitely going to use the days in Vail- after that, where should I visit? What's worth checking out? The pass makes vacations a lot more reasonable, and searching for airfare/lodging deals makes everything work out (I'm getting a job this summer to get some money for all of this). Thanks!
Wow..... We are eerily similar..... 😯
I know that I'm late to the party but I'd like to add a little of my "expertise" on Utah. If you go to Park City in late March, you could be dodging quite a bit of dirt if it is a bad snow year. Park City is more of a January-February destination. That being said, the terrain would very much suit you. And if you stay up high and in the trees, the snow can actually be pretty good, especially 9990, Motherlode, McConkeys, and Dreamscape. Like you, I also have a teen epic pass, so I know that Alta/Snowbird is not on your pass. But man, no ski trip to Utah is complete without a trip to Alta or the Bird! Hope this helps!
PS I will also be in Summit County and Vail from 12/27 to 1/4 skiing Breck, Keystone, A Basin, Vail, and the Beav (My parents would NOT allow me to be gone on Christmas Day 😪)
Edited by obsessedtxskier - 10/6/15 at 9:08am
post #63 of 80
Below is how I would rank the CO/UT resorts..
1. Vail
2. Keystone
3. Beaver Creek
4. Brecken Ridge
5. Canyons
6. Park City
7. A-Basin

Criterias I used for ranking are (not in any particular order):
- size of skiable areas
- terrain variety
- lift speed

I'd be happy with any of the resorts except A-Basin as long as snow is good. A-Basin has the height advantage and got its own charm, but I just don't like spending a lot of time sitting on slow chairs. As some said already, A-Basin may be best suited for busy weekends or for spring skiing.
post #64 of 80
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Originally Posted by nochaser View Post

Below is how I would rank the CO/UT resorts..
1. Vail
2. Keystone
3. Beaver Creek
4. Brecken Ridge
5. Canyons
6. Park City
7. A-Basin

Criterias I used for ranking are (not in any particular order):
- size of skiable areas
- terrain variety
- lift speed

I'd be happy with any of the resorts except A-Basin as long as snow is good. A-Basin has the height advantage and got its own charm, but I just don't like spending a lot of time sitting on slow chairs. As some said already, A-Basin may be best suited for busy weekends or for spring skiing.

 

Your post is really interesting to me. The criteria you list are not the ones I'd prioritize. Just goes to show, everyone's different.

post #65 of 80
I wish I could even rank these resorts. The only one I have ever been to is Park City/Canyons, but that will change by the end of the season. Next year I'm going to college in Utah, so I'll probably end up being an Alta/Snowbird devotee 😂
Here's my rankings:
Park City
post #66 of 80
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PS I will also be in Summit County and Vail from 12/27 to 1/4 skiing Breck, Keystone, A Basin, Vail, and the Beav (My parents would NOT allow me to be gone on Christmas Day 😪)

My condolences on the timing for those resorts, with possible exception of the Beav.  I'd actually rather take my chances with Park City in that time frame with 1/2 the skier traffic per acre, even though I'm not a big fan of Park City/Canyons for terrain quality.

 

Based upon the comments from most Colorado locals on this Forum, you couldn't pay me to be in Breck or Vail during Christmas week.

post #67 of 80

For the ones I've been to:

 

All these are solid 5's on my 1-5 scale:

 

Canyons

Park City

Beaver Creek

Vail

 

I've got to give the nod to the Canyons due to the steep terrain on 9990 and the pure joy of the long groomed steep cruisers on Super Condor.  There is so much variety there.

Park City has Jupiter and the hike-to terrain above McConkey's, but less sustained vertical on each chair.  Both Canyons and Park City have great snow on average.

Vail and Beaver Creek are in the same category but I rank them lower due to crowds.  Vail doesn't have much steep terrain.  Beaver Creek has more, but it's mostly bumps.

 

These are my 4's:

 

Kirkwood

Heavenly

Breckenridge

 

I ski more at Kirkwood and Heavenly than any other place since they are my home resorts, but I give the nod to Kirkwood and my wife prefers Heavenly.  They are both steep but Heavenly has better lifts and Kirkwood has better snow.  I love these places, but it would be hard to rank them much higher because to put Kirkwood or Heavenly above a powerhouse like Vail is unrealistic, especially given the kind of snow we've endured for the last 4-years when it's been much better in Colorado.  Breckenridge is frustrating to both of us, because the best lift is a T-bar and the crowds are "Epic", but it's huge and impressive in many ways.

 

These are the 3's:

 

Northstar

Keystone

 

Northstar would be a 4 if it was 1,000 ft higher.  It always seems like the good snow is only on the top 500'.  On a storm day it's the place to be though. Keystone seems to always be hard-pack, but I hear it was great last year so we want to give that one another chance.

 

I've actually skied A-Basin, but it was so long ago I can't remember much of it.

post #68 of 80
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PS I will also be in Summit County and Vail from 12/27 to 1/4 skiing Breck, Keystone, A Basin, Vail, and the Beav (My parents would NOT allow me to be gone on Christmas Day 😪)

My condolences on the timing for those resorts, with possible exception of the Beav.  I'd actually rather take my chances with Park City in that time frame with 1/2 the skier traffic per acre, even though I'm not a big fan of Park City/Canyons for terrain quality.

 

Based upon the comments from most Colorado locals on this Forum, you couldn't pay me to be in Breck or Vail during Christmas week.

 

Breck is fine until the 26th. We used to have a tradition of skiing at Vail Christmas day, and it was always lovely and uncrowded, especially before noon - we had a few great powder days that way.

post #69 of 80
Thread Starter 

Update from OP- we've booked plane tickets to Denver on December 16 and return on the 22nd. Skiing Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday at Vail! My brother and I will be skiing all four days, and my dad may ski a day or two (in the same boat as we were last season, almost brand new to the sport). Most likely taking a lesson one of the first two days- excited to learn to ski ungroomed terrain and explore the mountain, especially the Back Bowls and Blue sky!

post #70 of 80

ill give my top 3 

 

1) Vail -Back Bowls mostly

2) Park City-Canyons- all one now .Park City has a weird layout. Canyons is low elevation and lacks snow sometimes. 

3) Take you pick - Breck Or Beaver Creek . Can't really say. Its close. Breck's intermediate terrain is too flat, has good

terrain around the peaks but can get really windy. Beaver Creek can get icy -all North facing Good bumps but my knees

at near 60 cant take them anymore unless they are soft and powdery. 

post #71 of 80

This is fun! Here's my ranking:

 

  1. Beaver Creek - Great bumps, no crowds, fast lifts
  2. Heavenly - Huge, with plenty of challenging terrain
  3. Park City - Huge, with plenty of challenging terrain
  4. Breckenridge - It's got lots of everything, including crowds
  5. Keystone - some of the longer cruising runs you'll find off a single lift ride
  6. Canyons - good terrain, but too sprawling
  7. Kirkwood - great snow, plenty of challenge
  8. Vail - See Breckenridge description
  9. Northstar - Runs on the Backside and Lookout Mountain are underrated
  10. A-Basin - slow lifts, fewer acres
     
post #72 of 80
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Originally Posted by rykennedy55 View Post
 

Update from OP- we've booked plane tickets to Denver on December 16 and return on the 22nd. Skiing Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday at Vail! My brother and I will be skiing all four days, and my dad may ski a day or two (in the same boat as we were last season, almost brand new to the sport). Most likely taking a lesson one of the first two days- excited to learn to ski ungroomed terrain and explore the mountain, especially the Back Bowls and Blue sky!

 

Sounds great! Did you get into the back bowls at all last year? I think China Bowl and Blue Sky were my favorite areas when I was there. Though the front side has a lot of great stuff too. And if you're feeling like staying on groomed runs (I mostly did), there's usually something steeper in Sun Up bowl that's groomed (Headwall or Yonder).

post #73 of 80
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Sounds great! Did you get into the back bowls at all last year? I think China Bowl and Blue Sky were my favorite areas when I was there. Though the front side has a lot of great stuff too. And if you're feeling like staying on groomed runs (I mostly did), there's usually something steeper in Sun Up bowl that's groomed (Headwall or Yonder).

We kind of made it into the back bowls- we tried to make it down Sleepytime to ski China Bowl on our second afternoon, but we actually had patrol go by us on our way and rope off the bowl. We skied down Sun Up catwalk back to High Noon, which had some incredible views from the lift! The goal is to get super comfortable skiing ungroomed terrain and trees, so I'm going to push myself as much as possible on those four days. Hopefully El Niño means powder- that span of dates has seen fairly consistent snowfall according to Onthesnow, so fingers crossed!

post #74 of 80
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We kind of made it into the back bowls- we tried to make it down Sleepytime to ski China Bowl on our second afternoon, but we actually had patrol go by us on our way and rope off the bowl. We skied down Sun Up catwalk back to High Noon, which had some incredible views from the lift! The goal is to get super comfortable skiing ungroomed terrain and trees, so I'm going to push myself as much as possible on those four days. Hopefully El Niño means powder- that span of dates has seen fairly consistent snowfall according to Onthesnow, so fingers crossed!

Last year was a very weak snow year at Vail .pretty dry though the last two weeks of February were very powdery. Problem was I had the flu during most of that period. 

Still got out sometimes.

I have two sets of skis,one for powder days(Rossignol S7) and one for regular days(Volkl Mantra) . If you use fat skis on powder days they help a lot in easing your way

into skiing ungroomed snow and crud. 

That SunUp catwalk is sneaky fast,isnt it? 

 

I ski mostly ungroomed snow all the time and prefer it once I got used to it. If its really havey ,wet though I tend to stay out, Usually doesnt happen in Vail though.

post #75 of 80
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Originally Posted by rykennedy55 View Post
 

We kind of made it into the back bowls- we tried to make it down Sleepytime to ski China Bowl on our second afternoon, but we actually had patrol go by us on our way and rope off the bowl. We skied down Sun Up catwalk back to High Noon, which had some incredible views from the lift! The goal is to get super comfortable skiing ungroomed terrain and trees, so I'm going to push myself as much as possible on those four days. Hopefully El Niño means powder- that span of dates has seen fairly consistent snowfall according to Onthesnow, so fingers crossed!

 

One quick note... If you're starting from Henry's Hut area, I'd not recommend taking Sleepytime the whole way to China Bowl... it's loooonnnnggggg and boring. That was my least favorite thing at Vail. I'd much rather :

 

1) Take Timberline Catwalk to the Boomerang lift. That catwalk is shorter and I thought a little more fun/interesting (as much as a cat walk can be anyway)

 

2) You could ski something in Sun Up bowl if you're up for it (like I said above, there's usually a groomed run), and take the Sun Up lift. From the top of that lift you can walk/skate over toward Two Elks and catch Poppyfields there... or ski Jade Glade or Dragon's Teeth into China Bowl if you're up for it.

post #76 of 80
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Originally Posted by dbostedo View Post
 
1) Take Timberline Catwalk to the Boomerang lift. That catwalk is shorter and I thought a little more fun/interesting (as much as a cat walk can be anyway)

 

That's Sourdough that you are looking for not Boomerang. And he's right, NEVER take Sleepytime all the way to China bowl!

post #77 of 80
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dbostedo View Post
 

 

One quick note... If you're starting from Henry's Hut area, I'd not recommend taking Sleepytime the whole way to China Bowl... it's loooonnnnggggg and boring. That was my least favorite thing at Vail. I'd much rather :

 

1) Take Timberline Catwalk to the Boomerang lift. That catwalk is shorter and I thought a little more fun/interesting (as much as a cat walk can be anyway)

 

2) You could ski something in Sun Up bowl if you're up for it (like I said above, there's usually a groomed run), and take the Sun Up lift. From the top of that lift you can walk/skate over toward Two Elks and catch Poppyfields there... or ski Jade Glade or Dragon's Teeth into China Bowl if you're up for it.

Thanks for the advice! We got stuck there coming out of the lunch rush, and Sun Up was just beyond my ability levels at the time- the goal is to try as much ungroomed terrain as possible and push myself hard, especially if it snows. We're going to explore the bowls as much as possible!

 

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Originally Posted by H2OnSnow View Post
 

That's Sourdough that you are looking for not Boomerang. And he's right, NEVER take Sleepytime all the way to China bowl!

Lesson learned- not a mistake we'll make again!

post #78 of 80

I'm biased since I have family in Vail, ski there a ton, and know the mountain well, but I'd rank the Colorado VR options as:

 

1. Vail

2. Breck

3. A Basin

4. Beaver

5. Keystone

 

It's been 10+ years since I've skied any of the newer Utah and California options, so I'll abstain on those. I do remember loving Kirkwood, though. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by dbostedo View Post
 

 

One quick note... If you're starting from Henry's Hut area, I'd not recommend taking Sleepytime the whole way to China Bowl... it's loooonnnnggggg and boring. That was my least favorite thing at Vail. I'd much rather :

 

1) Take Timberline Catwalk to the Boomerang lift. That catwalk is shorter and I thought a little more fun/interesting (as much as a cat walk can be anyway)

 

2) You could ski something in Sun Up bowl if you're up for it (like I said above, there's usually a groomed run), and take the Sun Up lift. From the top of that lift you can walk/skate over toward Two Elks and catch Poppyfields there... or ski Jade Glade or Dragon's Teeth into China Bowl if you're up for it.

 

Another option: ski down Northwoods, past chair 11, down Log Chute or Clickety Clack (or continue down the fast road if you don't like bumps), and take 10 up to the top, near Two Elk.

post #79 of 80
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Originally Posted by LiveJazz View Post
 

 

Another option: ski down Northwoods, past chair 11, down Log Chute or Clickety Clack (or continue down the fast road if you don't like bumps), and take 10 up to the top, near Two Elk.

 

I think from there you'd still need to take the Sourdough lift as well to get to Two Elks, right?

post #80 of 80
Correct and it's a bit flat to uphill to get away from the top of 10 to a run that leads down to Sourdough.
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