I've always wondered when threads or stories like this come up, the guys really aren't doing "anything" other than just being themselves and just saying and doing whatever they want and doing the exact opposite of treating women well>
Is this show of that mythical "confidence", power, and overall alpha dominance/king of the jungle that is attractive?
So seems it's less on the guy and more on the girl being attracted, perhaps subconsciously to being treated poorly and winning approval.
It seems every girl has a story about one of their friends who's had a relationship like that, so it's not a one-off of just some weak minded women, but something that works despite what women say they want.
Anyway, probably a discussion for the slums of pick-up artists forums, but there's some basic psychology at play here.
Okay, so this JUST came up last night at post-ride, when folks were talking about the appalling things guys post in their profiles on Tinder. (It's a co-ed peloton. And I am finally sorta kinda back on the bike, however pathetically.) My observation about the appalling stuff is, "because, more often than you might think, and way more often than you'd ever get any thinking woman to admit, it works."
I'm reluctantly but emphatically with Ray and Mark on this. Here's the thing: However many civilizing philosophy- or values- driven perspectives we and our hetero female friends may hold dear, we are still, first and foremost, animals with hormones who are programmed to breed successfully. I deeply - for personal and societal reasons - wish this were not so, but it is so.
I'll bet many of the men here (@KevinF, are you listening?) can relate when I mention that there are more occasions - thinking back primarily here to my teens and twenties - than I care to remember in which some attractive intelligent woman would smile at me or squeeze my hand platonically and say something like, "you are so fun to be with!" or "wow, I would so love to have a boyfriend who was as [creative | funny | well-read | musical | articulate | name-your-positive-non-physical-attribute-here] as you are!" And then a couple days later I'd see her on tippy-toes with her arms reaching up around the thick neck of some stubbly Neanderthal hunk rubbing noses and sharing spit that I would have killed to taste. Right?