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post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 

Hi there!

We live in a country where renting and buying skis / ski gear are terribly expensive - rentals approx 25USD per person per time (skis + boots).

 

I'm an "advanced" beginner, and my husband skied a fair bit when he was young so can be called intermediate.

We have 3 kids aged 4, 2.5 and 1, and would like to start them off alpine skiing young, especially since we have long winters (the ski season just ended) and the ski place is right next door. I have a friend visiting from the States and he has enough baggage allowance to bring us skis and / or ski gear.

 

So I have been trying to research online for affordable alpine skis for me, my husband and our oldest (coz that can be passed down to the other two). But having limited knowledge and experience, I am now very confused.

I'd really appreciate some very specific help in terms of skis and boots, with brand and model names. I don't really know any better so would go with whatever advice is offered, especially since I have very limited time and it will save us a lot of money on rentals or buying them here.

Our specs are:
Me: Weight 52 kgs, Height 5 feet
Husband: Weight 68 kgs Height 5 feet 9 inches
Oldest daughter (but we'd like unisex skis): Weight 16kgs, Height about 100cm

(The ski place told us we need 80cm skis and 17 size boots(as of today, so probably bigger for next season))

Hope to hear from you all soon! Thanks in advance,
P

post #2 of 23
Thread Starter 

Also since I'm buying in the States, I would be happy to have references to any good deals / sales. I didn't find much on Amazon.

Our friend lives in Maryland.
 

Some more info -

We don't really want to ski backcountry or off the trail.

It's a small town and the facilities are not world class or anything.

Budget approx 100 USD for the kid(s), and 200 USD for our skis. I'm not sure about boots. Does that sound reasonable?
And we need poles and a bag too.

post #3 of 23
You might get used skis for that. New skis? Unlikely. Check out Sierra Trading Post, evo, levelninesports, etc.
post #4 of 23
Thread Starter 

I've been doing some research and this is what I have for the skis:

Rossignol Roostie (sizes 80 & 93) for the kids:
http://www.evo.com/ski-packages/rossignol-roostie-comp-kid-25-bindings.aspx

100 USD each

 

2015 Rossignol Girl 140cm skis for me (coz I can't seem to find anything in the adult section around 139cm):
http://www.skiessentials.com/2015-rossignol-fun-girls-skis-w-xelium-saphire-bindings.html
160 USD (it seems there is a 20% discount on the site)

 

2015 Rossignol Experience 75 168cm for my husband:
http://www.skiessentials.com/2015-rossignol-experience-75-skis-w-xelium-100-bindings.html

250 USD (it seems there is a 20% discount on the site)

 

 

About boots, it seems from all the research and reading forums on this site, that they are the most important thing. And should be fitted by an expert.

Now there is no expert here but we could get by with renting for a year, and see how it goes.
What do you think?

 

Would really appreciate some input from you experts!

post #5 of 23
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Originally Posted by 260980 View Post
 

Hi there!

We live in a country where renting and buying skis / ski gear are terribly expensive - rentals approx 25USD per person per time (skis + boots).

 

I'm an "advanced" beginner, and my husband skied a fair bit when he was young so can be called intermediate.

We have 3 kids aged 4, 2.5 and 1, and would like to start them off alpine skiing young, especially since we have long winters (the ski season just ended) and the ski place is right next door. I have a friend visiting from the States and he has enough baggage allowance to bring us skis and / or ski gear.

 

So I have been trying to research online for affordable alpine skis for me, my husband and our oldest (coz that can be passed down to the other two). But having limited knowledge and experience, I am now very confused.

I'd really appreciate some very specific help in terms of skis and boots, with brand and model names. I don't really know any better so would go with whatever advice is offered, especially since I have very limited time and it will save us a lot of money on rentals or buying them here.

Our specs are:
Me: Weight 52 kgs, Height 5 feet
Husband: Weight 68 kgs Height 5 feet 9 inches
Oldest daughter (but we'd like unisex skis): Weight 16kgs, Height about 100cm

(The ski place told us we need 80cm skis and 17 size boots(as of today, so probably bigger for next season))

Hope to hear from you all soon! Thanks in advance,
P

Quote:
Originally Posted by 260980 View Post
 

Also since I'm buying in the States, I would be happy to have references to any good deals / sales. I didn't find much on Amazon.

Our friend lives in Maryland.
 

Some more info -

We don't really want to ski backcountry or off the trail.

It's a small town and the facilities are not world class or anything.

Budget approx 100 USD for the kid(s), and 200 USD for our skis. I'm not sure about boots. Does that sound reasonable?
And we need poles and a bag too.

Welcome to EpicSki!  When is your friend going to visit?

 

For the kids, inexpensive boots can be found on eBay.  Of course, the tricky part is deciding what size since it's hard to know how much their feet will grow over the summer.

post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by 260980 View Post
 

I've been doing some research and this is what I have for the skis:

Rossignol Roostie (sizes 80 & 93) for the kids:
http://www.evo.com/ski-packages/rossignol-roostie-comp-kid-25-bindings.aspx

100 USD each

 

2015 Rossignol Girl 140cm skis for me (coz I can't seem to find anything in the adult section around 139cm):
 

 

2015 Rossignol Experience 75 168cm for my husband:

 

 

About boots, it seems from all the research and reading forums on this site, that they are the most important thing. And should be fitted by an expert.

Now there is no expert here but we could get by with renting for a year, and see how it goes.
What do you think?

 

Would really appreciate some input from you experts!

 

seems most depends on what budget you wish to keep within but in terms of kids, I'll presume from the kids ages, you only need to worry about one at a time, that the oldest as they grow.

 

the good thing with kids is they let you pass down equipment and in my experience, until they get into their teens, maybe a bit sooner, they don't really care much and adapt to what fits em.

 

That's not to say you needn't worry about fit or length, but from an actual style, my experience has been that my kids didn't notice if the skis we bought were greatly shaped or race or ... etc.

 

So, my advice is make sure the boots aren't too big, a common issue as kids like em big, ski wise, I found shoulder height was good unless your kids were really good. In fact, my youngest rode skis 15 cm too short ... this year I bumped her up by 20 from last year.

 

consider as suggested ebay but I've seen boots pretty cheap from on line stores.

 

I picked up Roces, they're adjustable but in earnest, with 3 I had had me downs and while I bought Roces for my youngest (6 yrs younger than next) we haven't use em .. still new in a box for the second year.

 

As others noted, Evo.com is nice and you can seek out their outlet demos .. Levelninesports.com is a good source that I've found very in-expensive especially for the one off name brands or name brands that pumped out one too many.

 

what country? do they have swap meets? I've bought a good number of eq at a swap meet.

 

good luck

pete

post #7 of 23
Thread Starter 

Thanks very much Marznc & Pete,

 

I am going to check on boots today (used and good deals on used). But since they are the most important thing, is it maybe better to stick with rentals for all of us for the first year?

What did you think of the skis I selected?

Country is Iceland - no swaps and can't find much used either, in any case used will also be very expensive as compared to the ones I picked.

post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 

I also read about adjustable ski boots for children i.e. ones that grow with their feet.

 

Any experiences about that?

post #9 of 23
Thread Starter 

I'm open to renting boots, but if I have to buy then here's what I found for the kids:

 

Size 16.5 - http://www.snowinn.com/ski-store/head-souphead-1-white-13-14/96833/p

44 USD

or

Size 16 - http://www.evo.com/outlet/alpine-ski-boots/nordica-fire-arrow-team-1-little-boys.aspx

52 USD

 

And for m:

Size 22.5 - http://www.evo.com/outlet/alpine-ski-boots/nordica-one-60-w-rtl-womens.aspx

USD 

 

For my husband, I think we will start with renting coz he has difficult feet, and should try them on before buying.

post #10 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by 260980 View Post
 

Hi there!

We live in a country where renting and buying skis / ski gear are terribly expensive - rentals approx 25USD per person per time (skis + boots).

 

I'm an "advanced" beginner, and my husband skied a fair bit when he was young so can be called intermediate.

We have 3 kids aged 4, 2.5 and 1, and would like to start them off alpine skiing young, especially since we have long winters (the ski season just ended) and the ski place is right next door. I have a friend visiting from the States and he has enough baggage allowance to bring us skis and / or ski gear.

 

So I have been trying to research online for affordable alpine skis for me, my husband and our oldest (coz that can be passed down to the other two). But having limited knowledge and experience, I am now very confused.

I'd really appreciate some very specific help in terms of skis and boots, with brand and model names. I don't really know any better so would go with whatever advice is offered, especially since I have very limited time and it will save us a lot of money on rentals or buying them here.

Our specs are:
Me: Weight 52 kgs, Height 5 feet
Husband: Weight 68 kgs Height 5 feet 9 inches
Oldest daughter (but we'd like unisex skis): Weight 16kgs, Height about 100cm

(The ski place told us we need 80cm skis and 17 size boots(as of today, so probably bigger for next season))

Hope to hear from you all soon! Thanks in advance,
P


Is it possible to rent for the entire season?  In the U.S., that can be worth considering for beginners/intermediates, especially children who are still growing.  I did not buy skis/boots for my daughter until after she was over age 6 and skiing enough that I knew she would continue to improve.  For us, going skiing required driving 3-4 hours to get to very small slopes.  This thread from Family Skiing has tips when outfitting kids.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/92869/money-time-saving-tips-for-parents-with-small-children-who-ski

 

Do you intend to take the littles ones under age 3 out on the slopes regularly?  Check out this thread:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/109216/how-young-is-too-young-a-family-skiing-topic

post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 

The ski place where we live is 5 mins drive away. I don't think renting for the whole year is an option but I will check.

We could also rent only boots and buy skiis for just the next year.

 

By next season the oldest will be almost 5, and the second one 3+.

I am afraid of buying second hand coz I am not in the same country so cannot take a look or send them back. Also the links I sent you are not so expensive, but I would like feedback on the quality.

post #12 of 23
Where to other people in Iceland get equipment?
post #13 of 23

What town in Iceland are you in?

post #14 of 23

Sounds like you're headed for a recipe for disaster.  If I were you I'd talk to the rental shop locally and ask them about a deal on some of their ex rental stock - now.  For 2 adult packages and potentially some kids stuff most reasonable shops would give you a decent deal on already fully depreciated stock.  Unless they are totally heartless, if so try the places near your next nearest ski hill.  It's all fairly pointless without boots anyway.  

post #15 of 23

To put this in perspective for my fellow North Americans - Iceland is small by our standards. Most of the country lives in Reykjavik and its immediate vicinity. The next biggest city is  Akureyri with a population of about 20K. Its local hill is the biggest lift served area in Iceland. Things drop off from there size-wise. So depending on where the OP lives, even the dynamic of rental fleets is probably not what you think it might be - and they likely turn over infrequently. Hence my question about location...

post #16 of 23
There is no way I would buy boots for kids that young. First of all, they grow like crazy, second, they can't really participate in the fit process. They are just as likely to only like the red ones as anything. If there is no seasonal rental (here if the kids decides two days in that they don't like the boots or you can tell that the boots are too big to control the ski you just swap them), then ask other families about hand me downs.

For you, buying boots anywhere but at a place you can easily work with during the break in period makes no sense, it's throwing money away. 90-odd % of boots are bought too big, and the correct, snug, fit is tough to achieve without some kind of work being done. Yes, some of us have boring feet (me), but the boot fitter takes into account more than just the length, they look at volume, width, instep height, calf size, odd protrusions, etc. If you can't buy them the right way, better to rent while you can.

Skis are easy. But way less important.
post #17 of 23
Thread Starter 

Thanks spindrift, you are right.

 

The ski rental place had a sale at the end of their season, and there was pretty much nothing in the kids size, and no kids boots at all.

I went to the local store today and they only sell cross country skis.

We don't go to Reykjavik so often.

 

I think we will wait on the boots and see if I can find a place who might help me later this summer in Reykjavik.

 

But we could still ask my friend to get us the skis. So any input on my selection of skis?

 

Thanks everyone.

post #18 of 23
Thread Starter 

Sibhusky, I get what you mean. We will try and find a ski shop in Reykjavik at the beginning of next season, and also check for second hands there.

 

Skis are less important but it would save me a lot of money if I could get someone to bring them.
I'm thinking these:

 

Rossignol Roostie (sizes 80 & 93) for the kids:
http://www.evo.com/ski-packages/rossignol-roostie-comp-kid-25-bindings.aspx

100 USD each

 

2015 Rossignol Girl 140cm skis for me (coz I can't seem to find anything in the adult section around 139cm):
http://www.skiessentials.com/2015-rossignol-fun-girls-skis-w-xelium-saphire-bindings.html
160 USD

 

2015 Rossignol Experience 75 168cm for my husband:
http://www.skiessentials.com/2015-rossignol-experience-75-skis-w-xelium-100-bindings.html

250 USD

 

What do you think?

post #19 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by 260980 View Post
 

Sibhusky, I get what you mean. We will try and find a ski shop in Reykjavik at the beginning of next season, and also check for second hands there.

 

Skis are less important but it would save me a lot of money if I could get someone to bring them.
I'm thinking these:

 

Rossignol Roostie (sizes 80 & 93) for the kids:
http://www.evo.com/ski-packages/rossignol-roostie-comp-kid-25-bindings.aspx

100 USD each

 

2015 Rossignol Girl 140cm skis for me (coz I can't seem to find anything in the adult section around 139cm):
http://www.skiessentials.com/2015-rossignol-fun-girls-skis-w-xelium-saphire-bindings.html
160 USD

 

2015 Rossignol Experience 75 168cm for my husband:
http://www.skiessentials.com/2015-rossignol-experience-75-skis-w-xelium-100-bindings.html

250 USD

 

What do you think?


Unless you very light weight, getting a girl's ski for yourself is probably not the best idea.  I'm petite (5'0", 120 lbs)  but always have skied on adult skis, even when I was an intermediate as a working adult without much time to ski.

 

For something to just play around on for a season, could try something like this at 144cm . . . $79 plus $59 for the less expensive bindings.  Note that you have to know the size of your boots in terms of length, called BSL (boot sole length) before bindings can be mounted.  I know absolutely nothing about these skis.  Just an example.

 

http://www.levelninesports.com/Erbacher-Blue-Cat-Skis

 

In any case, 144-149 is a more appropriate length for you.  Usual suggestion for a beginner is from chin to nose.  You may also be looking at skis on the short side for your husband.

post #20 of 23
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the input Marznc.

 

Just measured:

 

My chin 129cm

My nose 135cm

 

Husbands chin 147cm

Husbands nose 153cm

(I don't know why he says he's 173)

 

So now I'm thinking the skis I selected earlier are too big.

 

I found these adult skis:

 

Me

139cm - http://www.skiessentials.com/skis/women-s-skis/2015-k2-women-s-potion-72-skis-w-erp-10-bindings.html

136cm - http://www.skiessentials.com/skis/women-s-skis/2015-nordica-women-s-elexa-evo-skis-w-adv-p-r-evo-bindings.html

 

Husband

I found these 2012 ones really cheap in 152cm:

http://www.skiessentials.com/skis/2012-rossignol-avenger-72-composite-skis-w-tpi2-axium-100s-bindings.html

Is there something wrong with them?

post #21 of 23

You said you are not from Reykjavik. What part of the country are you actually in? If you are anywhere near Akureyri, I'd imagine there are deals to be had if you know where to look.  If you are in the south or other areas - I could definitely see the challenges in making this work locally...

post #22 of 23
With early rise, I don't subscribe to the nose/chin thing.

More here: http://www.levelninesports.com/Ski-Sizing

I'm 5'8" and although my longest ski is 170, I could easily do a 174-77. Depends on the use.
post #23 of 23

Ski length wise, I'd suggest a bit longer for your hubby. if he's 5-9, then I'd think he'd be closer to a 170 verses a 152cm as an intermediate .. I'm his height a and not a hard core skier, really in earnest was an upper intermediate but have slide backwards in the last 3-4 years for various lame reasons .. but while I have a 160, my newer skis are 168 and 170cm.

 

I guess I'll simply say that since he's skied prior, a 152 may make things easier at first but then become old quickly.

 

my daughters were at the 5 foot, they skied 140 range. Eldest at 5-1 skied Elan Black Pearls at 144 and Head Wild Thing at 139cm, now, she was rated well but on the other hand was very comfortable in em.

 

Kid boot and ski wise . I guess it's rally a matter of figuring out what you will likely pay for the year on oldest .. I can say with 3 kids the oldest ones eq effectively was used for the other two. I have sets of kids ski's from 70cm to 140cm, some in multiples and all bought relatively cheap. by this I mean that for what we paid, using over 3 kids was cheaper than renting. this provided we were doing 12-15 days a year each.

 

however as MARZNC noted, here there's rental or ski outlets that let you upgrade every year for a minimum amount. If I recall correctly, my brother in law "paid" for his kids boots/skis/poles and could change em out during the year, then each next year, for $50 or $75 update his kids skis. As long as they didn't trash em ...

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