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post #61 of 71
Wow. Cool. Thanks for responding. I will definitely have to look for the Enforcer 93, see if I can find 'em in the Tahoe area. I enjoyed the old Steadfast and other, older Nordica products. Thanks again!
post #62 of 71
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Wow. Cool. Thanks for responding. I will definitely have to look for the Enforcer 93, see if I can find 'em in the Tahoe area. I enjoyed the old Steadfast and other, older Nordica products. Thanks again!

 

The one, slight weakness of the Enforcer 100 is its edge grip/carve on firmer/groomer snow. It's very slight, but may be due to the ski width as much as anything.  For me on groomer and firmer conditions advantage to the Vantage 90 cti.  :) 

 

The Enforcer 93 might solve that one, small quibble!

 

You pretty much exactly described my experience with the Brahma 180, and probably what I'd feel with the 176 Vantage 90 cti.   (I only tried the 184.)

 

On length with the Vantage, I second the 176, but you are heavier than I am, so not sure. (I'm 5'10" and ~150.)   The 184 was slightly long for me, though great.  

 

For me the Brahma 180 length was right, and I found that the 184 90cti was almost as stable as the Brahma - hair splitting. The 184 Vantage has the length to stabilize fore aft balance through rough stuff and crud, for me. But maybe at the expense, a bit, of a small part of what you loved in the 176, at least on firmer conditions.  I have the feeling I might have the same experience as you with the 176, both pro and con. I'd have to try it to be sure.   I preferred the 184, by a bit, over the Brahma here in the Rockies - what a carver. 

 

The Atomic Crimson ti, the 178 (or 79?) in the older, stiff version was just right, fore and aft, for me.  Slightly stiff in bumps but good.  

 

The longer but less stiff Vantage 90 cti, while it had great crud stability for someone of my height and weight, had a problem for me:  I had to really get more actively forward, driving forward more than usual, to take advantage of the great carve of this ski.  Then it was a champ.     


Edited by ski otter - 2/13/16 at 3:35pm
post #63 of 71
Thanks, Otter!

That's really good to know about your experience of the longer Atomic Vantage 90 CTI and your experience with the same size Brahma (180 cm). I really appreciate the time you took to respond and your recommendation.

Thanks, again!
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Wow. Cool. Thanks for responding. I will definitely have to look for the Enforcer 93, see if I can find 'em in the Tahoe area. I enjoyed the old Steadfast and other, older Nordica products. Thanks again!

 

The one, slight weakness of the Enforcer 100 is its edge grip/carve on firmer/groomer snow. It's very slight, but may be due to the ski width as much as anything.  For me on groomer and firmer conditions advantage to the Vantage 90 cti.  :) 

 

 

Respectfully disagree, and strongly, and as an eastern skier, I should know. I spent half of last night skiing it on hard styrofoam and ice, and the Enforcer was just railing.  It's a very, very good ski.

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Respectfully disagree, and strongly, and as an eastern skier, I should know. I spent half of last night skiing it on hard styrofoam and ice, and the Enforcer was just railing.  It's a very, very good ski.

Ski both widths.

 

Please!

 

Report back!

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Respectfully disagree, and strongly, and as an eastern skier, I should know. I spent half of last night skiing it on hard styrofoam and ice, and the Enforcer was just railing.  It's a very, very good ski.

Ski both widths.

 

Please!

 

Report back!


I own the 100s; I'll see about spring demos (if we have spring skiing), and report back for sure. 

post #67 of 71
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Respectfully disagree, and strongly, and as an eastern skier, I should know. I spent half of last night skiing it on hard styrofoam and ice, and the Enforcer was just railing.  It's a very, very good ski.
Ski both widths.

Please!

Report back!


I own the 100s; I'll see about spring demos (if we have spring skiing), and report back for sure. 

What's your BSL?
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Respectfully disagree, and strongly, and as an eastern skier, I should know. I spent half of last night skiing it on hard styrofoam and ice, and the Enforcer was just railing.  It's a very, very good ski.
Ski both widths.

Please!

Report back!


I own the 100s; I'll see about spring demos (if we have spring skiing), and report back for sure. 

What's your BSL?

 

307 — you're welcome to give them a spin if we match (and if I keep them, which is another thread. I'll keep a pair of Enforcers, at any rate.) I wish I'd been able to score a pair of the Aaattack demos, but Bobalooski's were non-demo, so ça va. 

post #69 of 71
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Respectfully disagree, and strongly, and as an eastern skier, I should know. I spent half of last night skiing it on hard styrofoam and ice, and the Enforcer was just railing.  It's a very, very good ski.

 

Yes, no problem.  Good to hear the Enforcer 100 holds up well on back East ice; I wondered about that but didn't know.  

 

As I posted elsewhere, for me the Enforcer 100 passes my personal edge grip test on Western hardpack and groomers.  And I loved it everywhere else here, especially the places and conditions a 95-100 width ski is best for, and more: it rocks in powder and chop, for me.  

So no disagreement, probably.

 

At the same time, these things are relative, at least for me.  I had just skied the Vantage 90 cti, on groomers and skied off groomers here in Colorado.  And the skis I normally would ski on groomers and hardpack/ice are narrower: e.g., Crimson Ti 88  (the older, stiffer one), Stockli SR XXL 80, Stockli Laser GS master racing (~67 width) and 183 Volkl GS RaceTiger FIS Woman's WC ski (r 23).  These skis do better on groomers and hardpack/ice here, probably primarily because they are narrower.  But none of them have the smooth off piste or soft snow versatility of the Enforcers.  

 

So I wrote "slight," repeated it for emphasis, and meant "slight."  :)  I've run into other Enforcer testers who felt the same way, wondering how the Enforcer 100 would do on more demanding ice.   Now I know better.  Thanks. 

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Respectfully disagree, and strongly, and as an eastern skier, I should know. I spent half of last night skiing it on hard styrofoam and ice, and the Enforcer was just railing.  It's a very, very good ski.

 

Yes, no problem.  Good to hear the Enforcer 100 holds up well on back East ice; I wondered about that but didn't know.  

 

As I posted elsewhere, for me the Enforcer 100 passes my personal edge grip test on Western hardpack and groomers.  And I loved it everywhere else here, especially the places and conditions a 95-100 width ski is best for, and more: it rocks in powder and chop, for me.  

So no disagreement, probably.

 

At the same time, these things are relative, at least for me.  I had just skied the Vantage 90 cti, on groomers and skied off groomers here in Colorado.  And the skis I normally would ski on groomers and hardpack/ice are narrower: e.g., Crimson Ti 88  (the older, stiffer one), Stockli SR XXL 80, Stockli Laser GS master racing (~67 width) and 183 Volkl GS RaceTiger FIS Woman's WC ski (r 23).  These skis do better on groomers and hardpack/ice here, probably primarily because they are narrower.  But none of them have the smooth off piste or soft snow versatility of the Enforcers.  

 

So I wrote "slight," repeated it for emphasis, and meant "slight."  :)  I've run into other Enforcer testers who felt the same way, wondering how the Enforcer 100 would do on more demanding ice.   Now I know better.  Thanks. 


Likely to find lots of skis that do better on hardpack, but I doubt there are many 100s that beat it. I guess I was just stunned, not expecting to prefer it under those conditions over my very good 84s (of course, they're not carving-specific skis either, though they do that pretty well).

post #71 of 71

Last week, after taking a few runs on my son's three year old Atomic Crimson Ti, I decided to abandon my Volkl AC50's.  I bought the Atomic Vantage 90 in 176.  I weigh about 200 pounds.  I skied two days on groomed runs at Mt. Bachelor.  They are very nice skis and ski very much like the Crimson Ti.  The skis carved on the groomed snow and on the few hard spots that I encountered.  They lend themselves to finishing a turn. The skis tracked pretty well on cat tracks.  All in all, I am quite happy with my choice. Yesterday Mt. Bachelor reminded its season passholders that there is three months of skiing left.  I anticipate that the Vantage 90 is going to ski very well on that spring snow. 

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