Both of the above posts are thoughtful, pretty neat.
And I don't think there is dishonesty in the present fx 84 ski transaction, just confusion about whether the buyer has a clean right to return the item under the standard ebay procedure as "not as described;" and whether the seller should just leave it at that, no problem, and move on.
But I have to say I really like both the Epicski "for sale" arrangement and the ebay arrangement, at the same time.
I think it's 50 or so feedback points to be able to open a thread with a "for sale" item on
Epicski, plus there's the "for sale" or transaction feedback system separately, already (underutilized, perhaps). Great balance to this. I wouldn't change a thing. In addition, this is a much more intimate, safer environment, and more knowledgeable all around, for buying and selling ski gear. A real service.
Ebay is something else, and a different environment of necessity. There are many specialty markets on ebay and elsewhere - for instance, car sales, mineral speciman sales or vintage guitar sales, where pressure, exaggeration and misdirection/misinformatioin are an unhappy endemic part of the environment. You have to get used to it, buyer beware, and get a tough skin and real cautiousness. You have to be suspicious to not get scammed. And in such cases, thank God for the "customer (buyer) is always right" stance that ebay has taken.
Yes, often buyers and sellers of goodwill can reach out and trust one another, "just get along," as Rodney King said. But in my experience, salesmen in many fields look at themselves as "sharpies," a club of "wise guys," and look at customers as "marks" or "pigeons." In real estate, for example, at a few companies I briefly worked for, they used to have regular salesmen meetings to figure out how to counter and manipulate any objection the "mark" or "buyer" might come up with. And real estate salesman/broker licensing classes I took to get licensed, set up by the state itself, taught such dishonest techniques, taught by the top pushy salespeople in the field. The rock and mineral business was the same way, though unregulated entirely. In my experience, so is the vintage guitar market, to a large extent. Others could probably think of examples as well.
In buying used skis, I've experienced both types of sellers: people who were trying to omit or misinform from the get go to get more money, as their normal way of operating (almost all non-professionals); and people who were dealing with you honestly as a matter of course. I want a policy that accounts for both.
Appropriate to their own settings, both Epicski and ebay do this, as near as I can tell.
Edited by ski otter - 5/20/15 at 2:32pm