Originally Posted by eleeski
Does this mean that my Everest bikini guided spam trip is off?
Poor taste for that comment. But I wanted to reconcile conflicting emotions here. While it seems a bit callous to focus on Everest climbers with so much other devastation from this quake, the tourism economy in Nepal is crucial to their recovery and economic survival. So the Everest story is relevant. And trekking dreams (even vicarious ones) need to continue.
Sincere condolences to the families of the dead, injured and displaced. Best wishes to the climbers and the Nepalese people.
For what it's worth, am not interested in a ridiculous debate, the focus on the actual tragedy is all over the news, and every news and other media outlet. This thread notes clearly the scale of the destruction and points any who are interested to better sources for the news than CNN or FOX.
This was started to point out a remarkable, unusual, natural phenomenon (read the piece below) for the many mountaineers on the forum, and many others who come to read it - AN AVALANCHE WIPED OUT BASE CAMP AT EVEREST - that has NEVER happened, and the incredible situation (some good news on this - all or most rescued) that climbers were stuck on the side of nature's incredible tower, Mt. Everest with no way to get down as the usual route was destroyed - the web of the ones over the Khumbu Icefall which is set and reset through the climbing season each year. Climbing is an interest of many on this forum.This discussion has NOTHING to do with the ECONOMIC benefits or loss of the same to Nepal's economy. Many in the US do not look overseas or give a sh-te, that's cool, it's a free countr, so this was a medium to give them or anyone who was perusing the news of this incredible event, if it so interested them, again to each their own. This is Mt. Everest after all. And climbing it is of global interest, live and on a computer screen or on film, in all corners of this planet.
Anyway, that said, here is a piece from Bloomberg News - note the underlined portion - Freudian slip - thought that was amusing 'hikers' trapped at Camps 1 through 4 ! Says a lot about how many amateurs are being given access (no view offered on that, people go because they can, want to or whatever their reasons, not for this person to judge anyway..) , 'hikers' huh!
BN) ‘No One’s Going Back’: Everest Industry Shut for a Second Y
‘No One’s Going Back’: Everest Industry Shut for a Second Year
2015-04-27 16:36:59.227 GMT
(For additional earthquake coverage see EXT6.)
By Kartikay Mehrotra, Unni Krishnan and Tom Lasseter
(Bloomberg) -- Ada Tsang remembers the ground shaking and
then trying to zip up a tent flap before the roaring ocean of
snow overtook her. Ice and rocks flew into her face and Tsang, a
high school teacher from Hong Kong, was slammed to the ground,
“Everyone just yelled, ‘Run! Run!,’” she recalled as she
recovered in a Kathmandu hospital, her face cut and swollen and
her head bandaged all around. “Eventually it caught up and hit
When she awoke, Tsang saw bodies strewn around Mount
Everest, just some of the victims claimed by the earthquake that
rocked Nepal on Saturday. The official death toll now numbers
more than 3,700 people, including 19 on the mountain. Those
figures will almost certainly increase.
For the second consecutive year, fatal natural disasters
struck Mount Everest, hitting one of the most important revenue
sources in Asia’s second-poorest country. IHS, a consulting
firm, says rebuilding costs could “easily exceed” $5 billion.
That’s about one fifth of the annual output of the mostly
agrarian economy, which depends on tourism and remittances for
Since New Zealander Edmund Hillary and Nepali Tenzing
Norgay reached the summit in 1953, more than 4,000 people have
followed, creating a sizable industry. Websites for American
expedition companies advertise group trips to the top with
western and Nepali guides exceeding $50,000 per person and more
than twice that for ascents with a personal western guide. For a
sherpa, the job provides a salary of up to 700,000 Nepalese
rupees, said Bhim Paudel, operations manager for a trekking
company in Kathmandu. That’s about $6,900 in a nation where the
World Bank pegs per capita income at $750.
Paudel said that he knows there are bodies of guides
waiting to be collected at the base camp. He hasn’t had time,
though, to think about compensation for their families.
“Our first priority is the injured people,” he said.
“The dead people are already dead. There’s nothing you can do
It’s dangerous work.
“People go to Everest knowing that there are risks,
objective dangers which they don’t have control of -- such as
traveling through the Khumbu Icefall from base camp to camp one,
the risk associated with mountaineering at very high altitude,”
said Tom Briggs, marketing director for Jagged Globe, a U.K.-
based company that leads groups to Everest. “But they don’t go
to Everest thinking they might be caught in an earthquake.”
Estimates vary for how many people were on Everest when the
shaking earth triggered the avalanche.
Paudel said there were about 1,000 at the time, of whom 400
were climbers and the rest porters and sherpas, the ethnic
Nepali group famed for leading hikers up the tallest mountain in
Ang Tshering Sherpa, president of Nepal Mountaineering
Association, a group that promotes tourism, put the total at
800. He said he doesn’t expect “there will be more bodies
discovered” on Everest.
It may be many days before there’s opportunity to comb the
mountain and see if he’s right.
A group of light helicopters was able to dart up to a
higher-altitude camp Monday and ferry most of the 180 hikers
who’d gotten stuck on the mountainside down to Everest’s base
camp, said to still be inhabited by hundreds of people. An icy
stretch between the camps known as the Khumbu Icefall had been
While Tsang recalls five people in her group perished, she
says she saw 30 to 40 bodies on the mountain.
The earthquake was described in a blog post by a guide
working for U.S.-based Rainier Mountaineering Inc., who was at a
camp at another mountain in Nepal, as feeling “as if we were
inside a snowglobe being shaken by God.”
Paudel, sitting in the dimly lit offices of Himalayan
Guides Nepal as six men planned rescue operations, recalled the
2014 climbing season, which was canceled in Nepal after 16
guides died in an avalanche. He’s had enough of the mountain for
“Hopefully, people will stop coming this season,” he
The state newswire in China -– Everest straddles the Nepal-
China border -- reported on Monday that the country called off
all spring climbs on its side of the mountain.
Briggs, of Jagged Globe, said that he “can’t imagine”
that tours will continue this season.
“It’s difficult to think ahead to potential, future
Everest expeditions,” he said. A Google Inc. executive named
Dan Fredinburg, who traveled to Everest with Jagged Globe, was
among the dead.
As she recalled the noise and the pain of her world turning
upside down, Ada Tsang sat near a makeshift ward of mattresses
on the ground under a tarp roof at the Swacon International
Hospital in the capital. Some patients refused to go inside to
get treatment for fear of another earthquake.
As for Mount Everest, she said, “No one’s going back up
after what’s happened.”