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No left arm bicep

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Two seasons ago hit a tree just before going over a lip when a snowboarder came into view. Wraped my arm around a tree, hitting right on the bicep. This was the week before the Fernie Gathering. Didn't effect me too much but couldn't lift much in the way of weight at all with it. By the time I went in for my phyiscal I basically had a hole where the bicep should be when I made a muscle. With a much smaller , than my right anyway, muscle located towards my shoulder. Hard to describe in words But my left arm has two lumps where there should be one. Doc just , yep , you killed it and the other muscles have grown to compensate.

Until I started doing some weights I didn't realise how weak it was in comparison to my right arm. Any ideas or comments on building this arm up or is it always going to be much weaker in some movements.
post #2 of 13
Hard to say man. If the muscle is not detached in any way then I guess ya just keep working it until it comes back around.

good luck, hope its not your beer arm.

post #3 of 13
that it's been two seasons would indicate to me - and remember, i know zip - some damage that all the rehab in the world might not ever COMPLETELY remedy, BUT, how long have you been using the weights? curls, i presume. any nerve damage? responding slowly or not at all?

i do know that in an episode i entered in a long ago epicski thread on "darwin awards," i basically exploded the head of the
quad where it inserts into the knee joint. might've saved the joint itself, and the mcl, but did quite a job on the muscle. it has come back pretty much to %100 strength, though there is still a part of the muscle that refuses to "relax," so to speak, when the joint is in an at-rest position (no contraction, no flexion). like a small golf ball in the muscle.

if no nerve damage, i would GUESS the muscle might respond, if very slowly. maybe a matter of getting synapses firing, all that, "waking" the circuitry, keeping blood flowing into the damaged tissue, "reminding" it, so to speak, of past form.

good luck with it.

edit: i'm not sure what your Doc meant by "killed it"; doesn't seem the clinical term but i am finding some info google-searching "(repair) torn biceps," etc, that you may find encouraging.

[ July 31, 2003, 11:26 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Ryan, When I went in for my physical it was 6 months after hitting the tree. Basically made a muscle with both arms and asked " hey Doc will this get better" Her reply was no, that that part of the muscle had died" This was a year ago so not exactally sure what she said but that was the gist. Its not like I hadn't used my arm during that 6 months and I "grown" this mini bicep , which is the part of my bicep toward my shoulder has grown quite a bit.

I only noticed during some bicep curls with a bar bell. Looking the mirror I noticed that my left elbow would always kick out. When I locked my elbow on a pad and did some curls I realised how weak it was in comparison to my right. Before when I was doing curls with hand weights, I must of not been doing a pure curl with my left and engaging some other muscles.

For example I can do chinups gripping two bars, thumbs pointing to face, whereas no way can I do an unassited chin up palms toward face.

[ August 01, 2003, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: dougw ]
post #5 of 13
Well, it's good that you're not in pain and that the muscle still manages to flex the elbow joint, if relatively weakly. I'd be curious to see how it responds to continued exercise. By "killed" it, I guess she means irreparable cellular damage; tissue won't regenerate. In which case the rest of the muscle, and adjoining (shoulder), will strengthen, trying to compensate for the lost strength.
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
Yeah, really there was no pain involved at at. Hit tree and skied the rest of the day, well maybe took it easy. Next weekend skied with the Bears at fernie and don't think it was that noticeable. Skied with SCAC ( Paul) and even got a compliment from him and he's better than 97% so was skiing too bad. That summer moved 12 yards of clay from backyard to dumpster in front by hand plus 4 ton of concrete block and 6 yard of crush. So hasn't realy effected me too much. Just look a little deformed when I make a muscle.
post #7 of 13

I am certainly no doctor, but have plenty of experience with sports related (mostly football) injuries. In both my playing and coaching days I've seen many severe muscle trauma injuries, none of which couldn't be overcome with rest, treatment, rehab, and training. At this point, in my opinion, your main opponent in correcting this is the time that has past between when the injury took place and now, when you seem to have become concerned about correcting the problem. Your best bet would be to see a doctor that specializes in sports related injuries, get his/her opinion, and follow their prescribed road to recovery. At a minimum, I would at least seek out a certified trainer to help you designed a workout plan for focusing on this particular area of the muscle in order to "coax" it back into action. You could likely find such a trainer at your local health club.

It's good that the other muscles are compensating for this muscle's loss, but that's the way the body works. That said, as long as these other muscles are compensating, the injured muscle is not going to re-learn to carrying its own weight, so to speak. If you can get a program which "works" the injured area, without allowing the other muscles to compensate, my guess is that over time you will see improvement in this area of the muscle and over the long haul will correct the problem. As for the other doctor's comment that you "killed" this muscle, after just a glance, I could be wrong, but I'm not buying it. The body can recover from damn near anything, in my experience.
post #8 of 13
I agree with SportCoach here, get a second opinion to know exactly what is wrong.

It could be so many things. You will need to know what is wrong if you want help to rehab it. Is there nerve damage? Is there dead tissue? Is the bicep tendon still attached ( there are 3 of them, one at the forearm and two in the shoulder area, maybe only one head and/or tendon is damaged) and many more questions... At last, even if the bicep cannot be rehab, the brachialis, a strong elbow flexor can get stronger and compensate. It will not help in the shoulder flexion like the bicep does but other muscle can do that function.

Good luck in finding out what is actually wrong.
post #9 of 13

Five years ago my lower right bicep got stomped on playing football I still have a dent in my arm. Must have done a thousand sets of curls and still have only about 70% of the strength of my left arm, and I'm right handed. I have just accepted the fact that I have an unicep on my right arm
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
Tomcat, Thanks for the reply. I was coming to that conclusion. I was just surprized how weak my left was in a curl position. I'll keep working on it to get it to 70% of the right.
post #11 of 13

torn biceps

yesterday morning just before my ortho's appointment for bone spurs, in a transfer (I'm a t-7 para) I heard and felt my bicep snap. When I met with my doctor, he said I indeed had torn the bicep tendon. Since I am 57, he recommended that I do not have surgery. Next week I'll have surgery for bone spurs. My question is whether you guys have heard of anyone not having it repaired? Since I'm in a wheelchair, I can't possibly not use my arms for 6 months! Thanks and I look forward to your replys, ron
post #12 of 13
John Elway won a Superbowl with a torn bicep tendon in his throwing arm. When you live in Denver you hear about it in great detail.

Hope it doesn't hold you back too much and gets better soon!
post #13 of 13
Sounds like you tore the muscle. If that is the case, then there is little you can do at this point to regain symmetry (surgical repair would have had to be done shortly after the injury). However what is left can be strengthened. If it is not torn but just damaged, with proper training and nutrition, you can stimulate myogenesis (the production of new muscle tissue). Check with a physiotherapist.

My cousin tore his pec, he never goit it repaired, it looks a bit awkward however some of his strength returned but it will never be the same. He opted not to have the surgery.
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