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Thigh Burn-Vitamin E

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
Remember the discussion about thigh burn and how to solve the problem. I had read an article in ski magazine about the use of vitamin E to help relieve early thigh burn while skiing. I reported that I was taking 1000 iu's a day for a month trying it out for myself. I really think it did help. I skied much later in the day this last trip without getting serious thigh burn. Even skiing bumps and deep powder all day. Say what you will but I am convinced that by taking 1000 IU's a day for a month previous to the trip that it definitly helped me. Will it help everyone? I don't know. But it didn't cost a whole lot to try.
post #2 of 7
I also use Vitamin E to reduce soreness after skiing. I believe the Ski Magazine article was based on the work of Jennifer M. Sacheck, PhD, a researcher in the Antioxidant Research Laboratory at Tufts University in Boston.

Sacheck presented her findings at the annual Experimental Biology 2002 conference this week.

Previous studies conducted by Sacheck's team had already revealed that vitamin E was capable of soaking up excess free radicals.

In their study, they had two groups of men -- one group ages 23 to 35, and older men between 66 and 78 -- take either a placebo or a 1,000 IU supplement of vitamin E every day for three months. They tested the athletes' soreness after a 45-minute downhill run at the beginning of the test -- before they had taken the vitamin E supplement -- and at the end of the three-month period.

"Muscle damage, oxidative stress and inflammation all still occurred following intense exercise," Sacheck says in a news release. "However, these responses (were) blunted in both young and older men" who took vitamin E.

Young men saw the most benefits in terms of reduced muscle soreness and damage, she says, but older men also benefited.
post #3 of 7
Did these people not ski the whole 3 months in between?
post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 
Just like every other study done in the past hundred years, for every finding for-there is a finding against. I think it's all relative to what your goal is in doing the study to begin with. It's easier to search for the findings you want and ignore any other factors that might support to the contrary.

I don't always go along with what I read. I'm more of an anti person, the one who always roots for the underdog. So,

I decided to try the Vitamin E thing on my own. Reason? To see if it actually helps. My problem here living in the East. I ski at a hill with 750 vertical. Even though i'm in relatively good condition, skiing all day at 750 vertical isn't relative to skiing all day at high altitude at a place that has 3000 ft. vertical. Thus I get thigh burn around 2:30 in the afternoon and have to take it easy the rest of the day or start apre ski earlier. I pumped in Vitamin E a month and a half before I went to Colorado and continued taking it while I was there. My results were supprising. I really felt stronger towards mid day than last years ski trip.

Was this just a coincedence? Am I in better shape than I was last year. I think so. The fact remains, I believe the Vitamin E helped to the degree that I will say so and continue using it for other health benefits.

It's totally up to you.
post #5 of 7
Originally posted by bdc88:
I get 3 grams Vitamin C + 2000 iu Vitamin E + 1-2 grams alpha-lipoic acid + 5 grams green tea extract every day.
I bet your urine would yield an interesting chromatogram from HPLC.
post #6 of 7
Originally posted by BadRat:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by bdc88:
I get 3 grams Vitamin C + 2000 iu Vitamin E + 1-2 grams alpha-lipoic acid + 5 grams green tea extract every day.
I bet your urine would yield an interesting chromatogram from HPLC.</font>[/quote]Ha, I'd hate to be the person running that test. Between the 500 grams of protein/day & the alpha-lipoic acid, my urine is pretty rank!
post #7 of 7
Antioxidants are important. I get 3 grams Vitamin C + 2000 iu Vitamin E + 1-2 grams alpha-lipoic acid + 5 grams green tea extract every day. They're beneficial, but they don't come close to giving anybody the results that you're claiming. There are plenty of studies showing some benefit, but I'm sick of all the outrageous claims. Antioxidants aren't the cure all for everything. If you want to take something you're gonna notice, try epogen.

Contraction-induced muscle damage is unaffected by vitamin E supplementation.

Beaton LJ, Allan DA, Tarnopolsky MA, Tiidus PM, Phillips SM.

Department of Kinesiology, McMaster University, Hamilton, ON, L8S 4K1, Canada.

PURPOSE: Vitamin E supplementation may confer a protective effect against eccentrically biased exercise-induced muscle damage through stabilization of the cell membrane and possibly via inhibition of free radical formation. Evidence supporting a protective role of vitamin E after contraction-induced muscle injury in humans is, however, inconsistent. The present study sought to determine the effect of vitamin E supplementation on indices of exercise-induced muscle damage and the postexercise inflammatory response after performance of repeated eccentric muscle contractions. METHODS: Young healthy men performed a bout of 240 maximal isokinetic eccentric muscle contractions (0.52 rad.s-1) after being supplemented for 30 d with either vitamin E (N = 9; 1200 IU.d-1) or placebo (N = 7; safflower oil). RESULTS: Measurements of torque (isometric and concentric) decreased below preexercise values immediately post- and at 48 h post-exercise. Biopsies taken 24 h postexercise showed a significant increase in the amount of extensive Z-band disruption; however, neither the torque deficit nor the extent of Z-band disruption were affected by vitamin E. Exercise resulted in increased macrophage cell infiltration (P = 0.05) into muscle, which was also unaffected by vitamin E. Serum CK also increased as a result of the exercise with no effect of vitamin E. CONCLUSION: We conclude that vitamin E supplementation (30 d at 1200 IU.d-1), which resulted in a 2.8-fold higher serum vitamin E concentration, had no affect on indices of contraction-induced muscle damage nor inflammation (macrophage infiltration) as a result of eccentrically biased muscle contractions.
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