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post #31 of 49
Thread Starter 

I did demo a 163 cm 2015 Volkl Kendo. They had just sold their last pair of Kenjas at that size, but said they were virtually identical.

 

Yes, it was love at first turn. It wasn't a typical spring day since we had gotten a dump overnight, but I went out of my way to find cruddy, chopped up snow and icy moguls and these could really hold an edge and gripped better than my Auras had in similar conditions. I felt steadier going at high speeds through the chop. I wasn't turning as well as I would have liked to in the moguls, but I think it was just one of those days where my timing was off and didn't have anything to do with the skis.

 

post #32 of 49
Thread Starter 

Now that I'm looking to rent demos for the weekend, it's making me wish I bought the pair I had demoed. :(

post #33 of 49

Seeing all this Kenja/Kendo talk makes me sad my season is over and missing my Kenja's that are in storage waiting for mama to take them out next season :)

post #34 of 49
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Originally Posted by rx2ski View Post
 

Now that I'm looking to rent demos for the weekend, it's making me wish I bought the pair I had demoed. :(

 

Look around online; tis the time of the season for deals.  Maybe perhaps the pair you demoed is still available?

post #35 of 49
Thread Starter 

I demoed at the Mary Jane Ski Shop at Winter Park. I'll have to give a call.

post #36 of 49

Most ski shops have online stores. You can check the local store first and call around.

 

The current Kendos should be pretty inexpensive at this time. They are getting a make over next year. 

BTW, they haven't changed other than the top sheet since 2013.   

post #37 of 49
Thread Starter 

I've got to stop thinking about this. I need to buy new tires after I take the snow tires off.

post #38 of 49
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Originally Posted by rx2ski View Post

I've got to stop thinking about this.

Well, you're visiting the wrong site for that. smile.gif
post #39 of 49
Thread Starter 

I'll count on you guys to keep me on the straight and narrow. :rolleyes

post #40 of 49

Why don't you call www.skiessentials.com and see what they can do for you

 

http://www.skiessentials.com/skis/men-s-skis/men-s-freeride-skis/2014-volkl-kendo-skis-w-axial2-120-bindings.html

 

http://www.skiessentials.com/skis/2015-volkl-women-s-kenja-skis-w-salomon-sth2-13-bindings.html

 

I think that the size you were looking for, or I'm I wrong, I didn't bother to read back in the thread.

post #41 of 49
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

One is 89, the other is 87 under foot according to the Volkl site.

Kenja in 170: 127-87-106, 20.2
Kendo in 170: 126-89-110, 20.5

I can almost guarantee you that the actual dimensions would be the same for both skis if you were to measure them yourself. I doubt they'd use different molds, as they are the same ski.

post #42 of 49
Thread Starter 
I haven't found a place that had both to compare, but I am sure that is true. Printed specs and measured specs are often different.
post #43 of 49

Volkl claims the Kenja is different from the Kendo.  They claim it has the "bio logic stance" that they claim sets their women's skis apart - making them more flexible and easier for women  to move their center forward. The shovels are bigger and the waist and tail are narrower than the Kendo. I have loved Volkl's women's lines over the years and currently own Aura hummingbirds which I still love, love, love.   I did find the Kendo tougher to ski that the Kenja -when I tried a friend's - but they were also longer so that's not really a helpful comparison.  I don't know if the 2016 models are just a function of different graphics, but the 2015 and earlier are different skis.  

 

The Aura/Mantra used to be a different ski also but in 2015 seems to have changed to be identical in construction with different top sheets.

post #44 of 49
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Originally Posted by mustski View Post
 

Volkl claims the Kenja is different from the Kendo.  They claim it has the "bio logic stance" that they claim sets their women's skis apart - making them more flexible and easier for women  to move their center forward. The shovels are bigger and the waist and tail are narrower than the Kendo. I have loved Volkl's women's lines over the years and currently own Aura hummingbirds which I still love, love, love.   I did find the Kendo tougher to ski that the Kenja -when I tried a friend's - but they were also longer so that's not really a helpful comparison.  I don't know if the 2016 models are just a function of different graphics, but the 2015 and earlier are different skis.  

 

The Aura/Mantra used to be a different ski also but in 2015 seems to have changed to be identical in construction with different top sheets.

 

From what I remember the rep telling me, it's the same ski. The difference being the mount points are slightly adjusted on the Kenja to accommodate females better.

post #45 of 49

I copied this directly from the Volkl website.  Again these are the numbers for the 2015 models.  Last year, the Aura/Mantra lines were changed and are now the the identical ski with different topsheets.  It looks like the Kenja/Kendo were still different - at least last season.

 

KENJA:

Length Radius Sidecut
149 15.2 127_87_106
156 17.0 127_87_106
Length Radius Sidecut
163 18.2 127_87_106
170 20.2 127_87_106

 

 

 

 

 

KENDO:

Length Radius Sidecut
163 18.5 126_89_110
170 20.5 126_89_110
Length Radius Sidecut
177 22.6  126_89_110
184 24.0 126_89_110

 

 

 

 

 

 

"One of the most popular women’s skis in America, the Kenja features tip rocker and a Bio-Logic shape of 127-87-106. For advanced to expert skiers looking for the ultimate frontside/backside versatility, the Kenja’s massive bandwidth provides unparalleled performance in a variety of snow conditions."

 

Volkl's definition of "BIO-LOGIC GEOMETRY
Bio-Logic sidecut shapes are wider in the tip, and narrower in the tail than unisex skis, featuring a specific, progressive design that has a tighter radius in the front of the ski, and a longer radius toward the tail. The narrower tail allows the skier to finish the turn with less effort, reducing the load on the knees. Tip Rocker makes the overall ride smoother and more maneuverable, regardless of snow conditions.

 

 

The Kenja dimensions do fit the above descriptions.  I think the rep you talked to was wrong.  I am inclined to believe that Volkl knows what they are talking about when it comes to their own skis.

 

post #46 of 49

There is a possibility that the rep I spoke with was wrong. Whether or not it's purely marketing, even if they are actually different, it's so little that I don't think it's worth making a fuss over. Consider Volkl marketed the RTM as being full rocker for how many years now, when they clearly were not, who knows if there's a real difference between these two.

post #47 of 49
Thread Starter 

If I could get a bargain, I'd go for either of them :)

post #48 of 49
The Kenja is the same ski as kendo with different graphic and a slightly forward suggested mounting location more appropriate for women

This years versions now have camber underfoot compared to no camber in last years. Personally I like having the camber.
post #49 of 49
Thread Starter 

I got a great deal on the Kendo from Evo this summer. Now all I need is bindings and I'm set. I have to remember to tell them to mount them forward--thanks for reminding me.

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