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armada norwalk vs nordica patron vs volkl katana

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i ski alberta and bc. i like all mountain skiing. im told im almost if not expert. i ski around 40 days each winter. i am 5'9" 180 lbs. my instructors say im really strong i have atomic blackeyes for icy, hard pack days and experience 98s for everything else.  i really like the 98 but on the powder days im lucky i havent broken my neck pushing them too hard and they really dont float in real powder.  tried out the soul 7 and didnt find it any better than the 98 on powder and on anything else the 98s are much better.  tried the super 7 and really liked surfing the new and older broken up powder on the bald peaks and in the trees but found them slow and floppy. 

i want something for powder days and maybe for the next day or 2 as the resort gets skied out but more flexible than a full dedicated powder ski.  the norwalks and patrons seemed my kind of skis.  i want some thing with at least 110mm under foot but with stiffer tip than the super 7.  i like the idea of rocker front and camber tail for sharp turns in the woods. but a local store has katanas for  a price that makes it worth considering and i dream of getting into back country touring and could use these skis for that purpose.

 

 i would really appreciate any guidance i could get on these skis and any recommendations on bindings.  i really understand little about bindings.  and im looking to buy soon because the prices are crazy cheap no and banff is supposed to get more powder by this weekend.

thanks

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Welcome to Epic.  If those are the only three choices, I'd take the Patron.  I've skied it and it's a great ski.  But, my choice for deep days and big mountain stuff is ON3P Billy Goats.  I'm 5'7", 150 pounds and I'm getting the 184cm.  They have a fair of amount of rocker but they are not floppy noodles like the Super 7.  They have some camber and will carve. 

 

As far as bindings are concerned the Tyrolia AAAtack 13 is an excellent binding as are the Salomon/Atomic STH2 13 WTR and Salomon/Atomic Warden 13 MNC.

post #3 of 14
mtcyclist:
Have you been on the V-Werks Katana -> Any comments ?

I own it in 177 and my pal in 191. For OP probably the 184
We both think it is a very versatile ski, though did not get it into any deep pow.

The VWK's are on heavy clearance now ( as is last years green/blue Patron)
Blister Gear gave it a great review FWIW.
http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2014-2015-volkl-v-werks-katana
And I have never read a bad thing about them at any forum, either here or TGR.

I played my first round of golf yesterday ... and Banff is getting more powder ? Damn you westerners ! biggrin.gif
Edited by ARL67 - 4/15/15 at 6:44am
post #4 of 14

I can't speak for the Norwalk, but I have owned the Patron and Katana.

 

The Katana is no joke. It's one of the stiffer skis of that size that you can get your hands on.  I've demoed the Soul 7 and these two skis could not be on more opposite spectrums in terms of flexibility.  I am over 6 feet tall and over 200 points and the Katana takes everything I can throw at it.

 

Although it's larger, I would strongly encourage you to try the Volkl Shiro.  It's scary versatile for a ski of its size and I can't believe how frequently I use it even when conditions aren't appropriate.  I really can't believe how well it handles a variety of conditions.  As an east coaster we ski all kinds of cr@p conditions with pow in between and a ton of my friends in northern VT have tried this ski and never looked back.  I spend 90% of time on either the Mantra or Shiro, although in my head I think the perfect ski for me would be something in between the two.

 

I personally don't care for the Patron and sold it after one day.  Others like it quite a bit.  It's kind of a polarizing ski.  It is flexible in the tip and tail and stiff underfoot.  It likes a centered stance and I found the rear-most mounting point to still feel someone centered.  If you are thinking of the Patron, I would encourage you to try to find a pair of Factions 3.zeros.  That's a better ski IMHO that does everything the Patron does better.

post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 

perfect. just dont know who sells on3p   in edmonton or calgary.

post #6 of 14
Look on TGR; iggyskier = Scott from ON3P and is selling a Billy Goat blem for $400 + ship right now.
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smails:

Are you talking about the regular Katana or V-Werks Katana ?

post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
v works. I can get it for like 660
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Would not have considered it other than the price. It's always just been a top shelf thing that people drool over. Sometimes good deals have made me make bad decisions. Like a Lamborghini, I drool over them but realistically, what the hell would I do with it?
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by Dino View Post

Look on TGR; iggyskier = Scott from ON3P and is selling a Billy Goat blem for $400 + ship right now.

it is 191, not sure if this could be a right ski for OP, I would guess 186 be a better size?

post #11 of 14
He had 2 186 BGs. I bought one pair and he had one left as of a day or two ago.
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Originally Posted by ARL67 View Post
 

smails:

Are you talking about the regular Katana or V-Werks Katana ?

 

My post was in reference to the regular.  I assumed since the OP was talking about them on sale for cheap that's what he was referencing.  Perhaps not...

post #13 of 14

FYI: V-Werks Katanas are on sale for $660 up here in the land of beaver pelts & hockey sticks, and Patrons ( green/blue topsheets) are down to $380.

Check out ASOGEAR on eBay

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Originally Posted by zenmonky View Post
 

perfect. just dont know who sells on3p   in edmonton or calgary.


I believe FRESH sells ON3P in Calgary.

 

I have not skied any of the skis that you have listed.  My favorite western pow ski is the Elan Boomerang, I should never have sold them.  I even skied them at Norquay in November.

 

As for bindings, Levelnine has HEAD GTO15s in stock for $99.  You will not find a better binding for that price.  Period.

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