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Look SPX 12 vs. Salomon STH2 WTR13

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

As a binding-knowedge-impaired skier, I am looking for some help differentiating between these 2 particular bindings.  For those with the expertise I clearly lack, can you highlight what you see as the pros/cons of each of these?  DIN range is more than fine for my 166 lb. frame, so that is not an issue.  Thanks for any help!

post #2 of 12

I have no problem with Look, but I really like the Salomon Sth2 13s that I have on most of my skis. 

 

The heel adjustment range is nice if I want/need to let someone take my skis and I like how easy they are to get into and out of when I need to. 

post #3 of 12

I don't think 99.64% of the skiers could tell the difference between these two options for on the snow feel. Past that it comes to personal preference and confidence..and hell..color. Technical differences...the SPX will be slightly quicker in return to center, the Sth2 13 will have more lateral elasticity. Look, upward release, Salomon, upward compensation (turns upward force into lateral (Salomon believes there is never truly an straight rearward fall, there is always some twist involved)).  Weight: wash. Salomon, more and less expensive brake options. Adjustment range, wash again. Price: Apples to apples, the Look will be about $30 less. It comes down to single pivot verses multi  directional..from a layman view..if Look didn't think single pivot was better, than why would their top bindings be that design (15's and 18's)? Personally, I like the Sth2's design but I would have no problem skiing the SPX...

post #4 of 12

I've had both.  No complaints with either.  Unless a particular technical aspect appeals to you then I'd recommend buying based on price and/or colour.  But I do think the STH2 looks pretty darn good on a ski....

post #5 of 12

I agree with Phil that 99.64% of all skiers would not be able to recognize the difference in binding performance. However, I've never been a fan of getting the Look/Rossi heel pieces to release when taking skis off...PITA. I ski the STH2 on my Salomon skis and they are much easier to get into and out. Yes, and they can color coordinate much better. For me, the Solly's are a no-brainer.

post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by Living Proof View Post

I agree with Phil that 99.64% of all skiers would not be able to recognize the difference in binding performance. However, I've never been a fan of getting the Look/Rossi heel pieces to release when taking skis off...PITA. I ski the STH2 on my Salomon skis and they are much easier to get into and out. Yes, and they can color coordinate much better. For me, the Solly's are a no-brainer.


 




Really?

I just bend my knee forward, push and release the heels. One of the benifits of being able to ski a binding even lower than your DIN setting.
post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by Living Proof View Post
 

I agree with Phil that 99.64% of all skiers would not be able to recognize the difference in binding performance. However, I've never been a fan of getting the Look/Rossi heel pieces to release when taking skis off...PITA. I ski the STH2 on my Salomon skis and they are much easier to get into and out. Yes, and they can color coordinate much better. For me, the Solly's are a no-brainer.

The new SPX/Axial3 heel addresses the majority of the issues you mention. 

post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the responses.  I am going with the STH2 WTR13.  Does anyone know how much adjustment range there is in this binding for various boot sizes?  I realize they are not like a PRD12 or like demo bindings, but I understand they have some decent range.

post #9 of 12

28mm. Which is a lot. Keep in mind that the toe is fixed. It's not like a demo binding. I have a couple of pairs of skis where I've mounted the toes about 1cm ahead of the normal mark, which works really well with my stiffer race boots, and will allow me to also ski in a pair of coaching boots, which have a BSL about 15mm longer, while being reasonably centered. I'm a huge fan of these bindings. My wife and I have them on all of our skis….which is quite a few, and they've been flawless. When I approached my 60th Bday, I decided that I didn't want to be in an all metal 916, or a steel STH16 anymore. Wanted a min DIN of more like the 7 of a STH16, as I ski a DIN of about 10-11 most often. And my wife wanted a min DIN of 5, as she skis a 7 most often. The DIN range is more than she needs, but she likes the solid feel and connection of the binding. 

 

I think you'll be pleased with them. 

post #10 of 12
What muleski said. That binding has been our number two seller this season, after the Look NX12. We've had trouble keeping them in stock.
post #11 of 12

Also don't forget atomic is also available but in different colors and might be cheaper.  I just bought new skis and atomic sth2 13 wtr; will be burning a hole on my shelf until winter comes

post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 

Well, I'm all in on the STH2 WTR13 ... bought 3 different pairs of skis in the last 2 weeks and will have STH2's mounted on all of them!  Will be interesting to compare to the PRD12's on my frontside skis and my previous experience with Griffons on multiple skis.  Thanks to all for your help and comments!

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