Originally Posted by Tog
I'm pretty sure about the strip and swiping it because it was so far ahead of Vermont lifts. Unfortunately I did not ski one turn most of the 80's.
I remember at Tignes we used to get fantastic powder right under or lookers left of the lift to the top where it makes a turn. There was a small bowl there with rocks on top. We used to traverse in and ski down and not many did it. I imagine with fat skis and the general increase in powder skiing that's not the case any more. At that time though we could get basically barely tracked anytime we wanted and it was deep. Believe we were there mid march.
The other thing I remember is lookers right of the lift to the top at Tignes.(to base of Grand Motte). To the right there's a very large roll over that gets steepish and heads into the valley that parallels the lift more twardsbthe bottom. I guess the rollover could be the base ifvthe glacier? Anyway, that was probably my first real light powder waist deep experience. Or light powder in general. Going over that lip with the view in front was just incredible.
Olin Mark VI skis and jeans on! Yea, young and dumb but that's what we had. Plus the heaviest boots probably ever made. Just awful and likely way too big. (Some Trappeur boot with a massive metal rod wrapped in the back for...?..support??)
Nothing like the views in the Alps. Telluride/San Juans comes close.
Dusty thanks for the detailed report and the Action photo!
Btw, you need to get a real camera instead of a phone.
Tog: I laughed - yes, that 'lip' over the rollover where the Funicular ends is great, mention it in my 'book' above. And yes, there is a GoPro and iPhone involved in film-making, it's under production...not a 'real' camera just the two above. Just a lot of footage has to be discarded as cameraman was busy focusing on life, limb, oxygen-conservation as skiing and terrain was as magnificent as it was an unrelenting exercise ( for the visiting camera-man anyway ) in self-preservation: so GoPro chest mounted is pointing down as knees bend and body angulated over, and iPhone was never used in motion as terrain was too intimidating for the Dad to do his usual iPhone in one hand, poles in the other filming!
It is a home movie after all, and even with all the discarding, I think for interested viewers, this is one film with actual filming of classic off-piste routes of Vallon de la Sache, Tour du Charvet, and Grand Vallon, most YouTube clips are of the Face, and some of the Sache - which are the famed Black pistes at L'space Killy. (Just a preview here - editing continues). It's a long movie, longest I have ever made...that's less than 10% of footage shot..
On 'Average' and this is casual experiential empiricism, On-Piste L'space Killy is the steepest ski area we have ever skied, and locals and visitors (from Russia, Italy, UK, Belgium, Germany and France) told us L'Espace Killy Piste runs - are significantly steeper than pistes anywhere else in the French Alps. For us, hands-down, on-piste is way steeper than all US and Canadian resorts we have been to...and also Zermatt-Cervinia and Lech-Zurs. For instance, even a local transit thoroughfare is this wide Red in Val D'Isere called 'Plan' which becomes Piste 'M' , it is really steep and good skiers can really fire up the turbo-chargers on it, down from the top of Solaise into Val D'sere, a Black on-piste almost anywhere else, it's wide, bald and has innumerable uncontrolled human missiles of all shapes, stripes and configurations barreling down, it's a genuine threat to life, mind and body!
Serge estimated and conservatively, 12 yo and his Dad skied about roughly 80kms (50 miles) on day 1 in non-stop snow, fog and mist, a 'trip', there is film of 12 yo taking a nap from fatigue and jet-lag on Tichot lift at the start of the 2nd round post lunch. Anyway, tooling around with this cool feature of picture 'Preview' on a MacBook, traced our travels on Day 1 on the map - have to click on the map to see it - We started in Tignes Val Claret, headed East to the highest and farthest point in-bounds in Val D'SIsere, the top of the Pissaillas Glacier, then skied back to Tignes Val Claret for lunch, and then headed West to the Western Corner - the start of L'Espace Killy, the lowest point Les Brevieres and then back to Tignes Val Claret. It was a shade over 7 hours of skiing on Day 1 - the body hurt, the knees were ripped (Well 12 yo almost took out Dad's knees)...anyway, the map:
- Yellow route to East End ; Pink Route back to Lunch-Val Claret
- Khaki Green route to West End post lunch; Light purple route return to Val Claret
- Lifts used marked with 'arrows' or things that resemble arrows on them...am no fine artist.
Edited by dustyfog - 5/2/15 at 9:04am