Originally Posted by DanoT
So FlyingFish, how did you do in the level 3 CSIA exam?
Well the teaching half was okay, but could have been better. It was a beautiful spring day, not a cloud in the sky, and it felt like it was 60 degrees out. I was the last one to go in a group of 6 so everyone (myself included) was pretty bagged and the snow was pretty tired by the time I went. Also, while I was the only person who made the examiners laugh, it didn't make up for how all over the place I was!
The next day was the ski off, and it was 20 degrees, blinding snowstorm, zero viability, with periodic 50 mile an hour winds. Several times, the group moved around to find acceptable terrain to ski on. I was really disappointed in myself by the end because I was sure that was the worst day I had skied in months, but as it turned out, I passed the ski portion!
Not sure if that says a lot about my skiing, or that it's advantageous to do the ski off in a whiteout when nobody can see you!
Originally Posted by Adie
I'd love to see some video of a top CSIA or PSIA instructor just teaching a lesson. There's so much skiing footage but I've never seen any lessons as such online. There are some good video analysis sessions but I've never seen a real lesson. I for one would benefit from that.
Originally Posted by DanoT
Here is my question: do PSIA or CSIA ever have a candidate for examination teach an actual class of students while the examiner tags along and grades the instructor candidate?
It seems to me there is nothing like seeing what goes on in an actual class situation.
In the CSIA, it's a lot like the PSIA, you teach the group of your fellow candidates.
In levels 1 and 2, you can get several chances to do it, some people will teach for 5 minutes, until the examiner has seen enough to make up their mind about you, then let someone else have a go. Others will teach for 30 minutes until they get it right. If you look like you're struggling, often the examiner will chip in a few ideas for you and point you in the right direction.
In the level 3 exam, you get an hour to teach your group. Either you get to teach bumps, or advanced skiing techniques (short turns and long carved railroad tracks) which you get randomly assigned the morning of the exam.
Most of the examiners will freely admit that the whole thing is quite artificial, especially when you're expected to evaluate the "students" who you've been skiing with all day, and not skimp on your demonstration of your MA skills. But its quite easy to want to skip that part, especially after 8 hours of skiing with the same group. But in a lot of ways, I suppose that the reason why they do this is so that you can demonstrate a "progression" of a lesson, fairly quickly. Since in a real world situation, you could spend an entire hour showing someone how to make a hockey stop and still get nowhere.
But all in all, I found the process quite fun.
Originally Posted by 4ster
This happened to me during my 1st LII teaching assessment many decades ago (we called it an exam back then), I think I was 19 or 20yrs old. The chief examiner skied up to our group (at that time it was called a "teachng board" & consisted of the candidate & 3 examiners,... talk about intimidating!) interrupted, asked a struggling beginner lady if she would mind some free instruction. With these 4 examiners hovering over me, I then proceeded to guide the poor lady down what was obviously too steep a hill for her abilities. I figured the test was to see how handled getting her down the slope she was on & did my best to keep eye contact, maintain a close physical proximity & reassure her that I would protect her descent while skiing backwards in front of her & teaching her the benefits of a braking wedge. Long story short, I failed because I didn't immediately say that we needed to get her to flatter, more appropriate terrain !
Lesson learned: Never assume & don't neglect the obvious.
PS: I don't think this was the normal procedure, I just lucked out LOL.
That sounds like it would have been an interesting experience! In a lot of ways, it's a better reflection of how one might approach a lesson.
Originally Posted by yogaman
Why is that? What is it about that process and that environment that fosters that reaction? YM
I think for a lot of people at least those on the CSIA 3, get hung up over the idea that they need to teach "the perfect lesson" or ski "perfectly." However, more than a few level 4's have said that it's at the 3 level, they're looking for a 7/10 level of proficiency, that is, for every 10 turns you do, you can botch 3 of them. And they're looking for "refinement" and not "skiing god."
But if you go in to a ski-off run thinking "right, just keep the feet apart, maintain the upper and lower body seperation, knees, bent, poleplant timing, legs lengthened in the fall line, flatten both skis for a brief pause in the transition, bend at the joints, keep in a centered stance etc. then you're in for a bad time. And who can ski well if they're thinking about all that?