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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

So I am having a very unusual problem - my feet get WAY too hot. I use Fischer Vaccuums that fit great but with all the spring skiing in 50s mtn temps, my feet swell up as the day goes on and start causing me pain.

 

In colder winter temps my boot/liners work great but warmer temps are brutal due to the heating issue. In researching custom liners, it seems everything out there is warmer than my current liners (in fact people complain my liners are some of the coldest around).

 

What are the coldest liners I can get for spring skiing? Something with really weak insulation.

 

It may be more effective to tackle the problem from a different approach? I suppose I could stop, take a break, take my feet out of my boots and bury them in the snow to cool off every 1.5 hrs or so.

 

Shame no one makes little vents to put on ski boots to vent the heat with an adjustable cover to block it in wintry conditions.

 

How do you guys handle hot feet for spring ski conditions? No socks? Immerse feet in ice? Maybe cover my boots with mushy snow eveyr hour for a few minutes to cool down the shells, letting the lower temp cool my feet?

post #2 of 16

Thoughts:

 

1:  Re-layer the upper parts of the body.     Go down to nothing but a zip-T and running shorts if you have to.      Use short-fingered bike gloves for your hands.

 

2:  Change socks every time you go in to the lodge

 

post #3 of 16

Ultra small plug boots with very thin foamed liner. 

post #4 of 16

Not that unusual, at least not for me.  I wear ultra thin socks (that have been washed hundreds of times so they are almost non-socks) in Spring conditions.  Even then I take the boots off every chance I get which allows my feet to cool down a bit.  My area has 2 gondolas which allows me to get them off my feet without losing ski time.

 

The pre lace up Lange race liners are about the thinnest, coolest liners I know of.

 

What's the worst thing about skiing?

 

Ski boots!

 

 

What's the best thing about skiing?

 

 

 

 

 

....................................Taking them off!!!

post #5 of 16
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Ultra small plug boots with very thin foamed liner. 

 

If he really wants to deal with having 2 pairs of boots he can always make pool jumping boots by drilling vents in a junk boot himself.   

It's dirt simple to make a 3D drill hole spacing jig by spreading alu foil over the boot, smearing 24hr epoxy on that, then mosaic-tiling hex machine nuts into the epoxy.    When cured, just drill through the nut holes.

 

 

... but reducing the surface temperatures over the rest of his body is a little more, hmm, mechanically trivial.    It might make him go to the bathroom more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold-induced_diuresis   but that would all help reduce the swelling and associated pain.  :eek;):eek:D 

post #6 of 16

I thought of drilling, but then thought that might lead to wet feet.  Wearing wet footwear causes premature wear of feet skin, which besides being painful can lead to infections.

post #7 of 16

What about the reverse of chemical hot packs.... put ice packs in your boots? If you get some small flexible ones, they may work. Not sure if the flexible ones would be tough enough not to pop - you might have to put them in another baggie or something.

post #8 of 16
Leave your boots out overnight? Can't imagine having this problem!!
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
 

I thought of drilling, but then thought that might lead to wet feet.  Wearing wet footwear causes premature wear of feet skin, which besides being painful can lead to infections.

 

:D sounds like he's got wet feet now and afaict he was proposing to soak his feet in snow anyway.     

post #10 of 16
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What about the reverse of chemical hot packs.... put ice packs in your boots? If you get some small flexible ones, they may work. Not sure if the flexible ones would be tough enough not to pop - you might have to put them in another baggie or something.

 

He's in Fischer Vacuums.   I suspect that if he had enough volume for this solution to work, he'd have enough volume to not get pain from foot swelling.

post #11 of 16

Invention patent, free for the taking: electrically driven endothermic reactions in insoles.

post #12 of 16
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 Can't imagine having this problem!!

 

No?  

The first time I skied in Colorado, ever, it was over Easter.    I was in a Tecnica TC3 with Raichle Flexon liners- the red and light grey 'Santa Claus' ones.    Never thought I'd had a problem - after all I had just spent weeks skiing them in VT and QC.

I took my socks off on the first day and my feet looked like they'd been soaking in a crab pot.     It didn't get any better on the second.

post #13 of 16
I've skied in the 60's this year (hopefully we'll get back to normal next season), had sweat running down my spine and peeled clothes off when I got home, but my feet are either totally dry or close to it. One day I could feel heat coming out of the boots as I took them off, but I hadn't noticed being hot.
post #14 of 16
Leather race lace up liners(the lowest possible volume) from Nordica,Head or Lange + compression socks might be the answer.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the ideas guys.

 

- Compression socks are insufficient, tried that.

 

I had success at Kirkwood skiing yesterday in upper 50s by using running toe socks and rolling up my pants on every lift. Kept my feet cool for about 3 hrs before swelling and I was skiing very aggressively in terms of speed and doing alot of aerial tricks (the landings are hard on my footsies).

 

- There is zero space in my boots for an ice pack, the boots fit perfectly and work perfectly - in winter weather. I felt great hiking up to Lake Chutes in Breckenridge earlier in the season when a cold snap dropped the temps into the negs.

 

This weekend is closing weekend in Tahoe and temps will be around 70 (lake level). Im thinking I will just ski in swim shorts and a running shirt. A cold upper body does seem to reduce heat in my extremities.

 

Now that I think about it, I do have my previous pair of boots still - a pair of Tecnica 90 flex Phoenix Dragon thingies from 2009 with an air pump to fill in the boot. I could drill holes in that and make it my spring boot (just gotta avoid popping the bladders). Find some type of mesh or vent so snow doesnt get inside. Although its a different size (one size larger, 28.5 vs 27.5 Vacs) than my Vacuums so have to figure that one out. I swear they are stiffer than my Flex 120 Vac Rangers... 

 

Wet feet not a problem, my feet come out steaming. This is a spring only problem. In 50 degree heat at Squaw on THursday, my boots had steam coming out of them when I took them off after skiing 3 hrs.

post #16 of 16

how much do you weigh?  

 

Of course it's best if you can change the equipment to fit the person; but this could be a physiological issue specific to you that is best address by seeing if there are body changes you can make so your feet don't swell up so much when they get warm. 

I know for certain my first day on the mountains coming from sea level always results in swollen feet and a very slow warmup, from the altitude change.  If a flight is involved even more.

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