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post #31 of 47

I just purchased a pair of Kastle FX 84 and used them Saturday frozen solid, and sunday the perfect spring day and they where perfect for the things you wanted in a ski. IMHO you would not need or want a wider ski. They are very easy to ski and had a great solid feel.  I bought mine for 50% off from Scott @ Dogcatcher.com

post #32 of 47
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Lot's of food for thought - thanks again guys! Remember, I really like the Progressor 900's, and I'm certainly not looking to replace them but rather to add another ski as an option for some days. However, I have to admit that I think the factory tune is suspect - they might be slightly railed - I'm going to get them professionally tuned at 1 and 3 tip-to-tail before next season; I have a feeling I might like them even more! Then after I ski them for a few more days, I'll try to demo a bunch of 88 - 95 mm skis. I don't have much experience with 'wider' skis. A little over a year ago I briefly tried NRGY80's (169), Brahmas (173), Steadfasts (170), and Motive 86's (175); and I liked the Motives the best. Then, deciding that what I really wanted was a modern frontside high-performance carver with more versatility than my 15-year-old Atomic BetaRace 920's (62mm, 180cm), I bought the P900's (170). And I got just what I wanted! But of course now I want even more! Unless I find a too-good-to-pass-up deal on something enticing, I'll wait till next season and try before I buy. So, feel free to keep those comments and suggestions coming - it's going to be a long hot summer!


Hi there , this has probably been covered many times before, but since you mention that you feel your Progressors 900 '' slightly railed " and you intend to get them professionally tuned for the next season to 1/3 here are my thoughts. Skiing an entire season on a factory tune is probably wrong.You may not be able to benefit from the ski's full potential and a regular professional tune is a must especially  when mostly skiing the " normal "  NE type of snow. Tuning your ski to 1/3 as you intend will make you feel  them  as " rockets " , but know that this tune will go away only after 2 to 4 (max) days of skiing in NE. After 4 days of skiing you will only think you have a tune . A tune of 1/2 will last you at least 10 -12 days and you still be able to make nice arcs  and 1/1 is the most  ski " saving " mode -- good for spring skiing ( and fatter skis). So choose your strategy for the next season and hope this help .

post #33 of 47
Thread Starter 

Wow, Bogatyr, that's very interesting! Sadly, 10-12 days is a very prolific season for me, so you've given me significant food for thought!

post #34 of 47
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Blizzard Bushwacker:  88mm, softer, non metal Brahma, really good in trees and off piste, a little narrow for deep snow

 

I've skied the bushwacker (my room mates ski) and the brahma back to back a whole lot this year.

 

I really feel like everything the bushwacker does the brahma does just a bit better if you like skiing fast. If you don't like skiing fast then the bushwacker get's the nod because you can just sorta roll it onto the edge and start carving on it.

post #35 of 47
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I didn't think I wanted a 95 width either, but took the gamble.  I was surprised by the breadth of ability of the Motives. Bump skiing was actually more relaxed than it ever has been for me.  I'm glad I didn't go for a mid-80 width, as I know these will be much better in deeper snow, and they lack nothing when compared to my 79 width AMC skis.

 

Tell ya what, if you're still thinking next season, maybe we can hook up and you can try mine since they have demo bindings that are easily adjustable.

 

 

It's funny, I started the season thinking that i would replace my AMC 79's at the end of this season probably with a Fischer Motive 80 or 86. I had such a great time skiing the AMC's I have decided to keep them at least through next season. They still have tons of camber ,are great everywhere and I still have a next to new pair of RX8's for groomer railing.

 

I have tested a few tip and tail rockered skis and really like them but for 90% of my skiing here on the east coast i really like a cambered ski with alot of rebound. 

 

Maybe I will keep both the RX's and the AMC in the rotation and just add a rockered ski into the quiver... 

post #36 of 47

Trust me, everything the AMCs do, the Motive does just as well, and in the case of chopped up crud, they are light years better (the AMCs are so light because they are all carbon fiber, that you really have to drive them through the snow or they deflect pretty readily).  I was skeptical until I took the gamble.  And I thought the AMCs were pretty good at tipping them up on edge and riding the rail....the Motives are superior in that aspect as well.

post #37 of 47


Fischer tunes are usually very good but they could be railed. They all come with a 1/3 set up so If you have a diamond stone and can maintain between pro tunes they will last. Fischer does something to the steel in their edges and they hold tunes very well.

post #38 of 47
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Yes, I have a diamond stone and remove any edge irregularities after each ski day. That and a liberal application of Toko 'Express' liquid wax. I'll take them to SkiMD at Summit Ski and Snowboard for their, "Factory Fresh Finish," before next season. And I'll stick with 1 & 3.

post #39 of 47
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Fischer tunes are usually very good but they could be railed. They all come with a 1/3 set up so If you have a diamond stone and can maintain between pro tunes they will last. Fischer does something to the steel in their edges and they hold tunes very well.

 

 

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Yes, I have a diamond stone and remove any edge irregularities after each ski day. That and a liberal application of Toko 'Express' liquid wax. I'll take them to SkiMD at Summit Ski and Snowboard for their, "Factory Fresh Finish," before next season. And I'll stick with 1 & 3.

Fishers do have very hard edges and hold a tune very well, also ski md tunes are the best I have ever seen and ski much better than any factory tune that has come on any new skis I have ever had .

post #40 of 47
Thread Starter 

My current list to demo next year in more than 1 size if possible is:

 

Fischer Motive 95 and Ranger 88;

Dynastar Powertrack 89;

Atomic Vantage 90 CTi - does anyone know anything about this new-for-2015-16 model?

post #41 of 47
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My current list to demo next year in more than 1 size if possible is:

 

Fischer Motive 95 and Ranger 88;

Dynastar Powertrack 89;

Atomic Vantage 90 CTi - does anyone know anything about this new-for-2015-16 model?


Keep us posted  , it will be an interesting comparo especially between the PT and the Motive 95. 

post #42 of 47
Thread Starter 

Just noticed today (www.fischerski.co.nz/) that Fischer will be updating the Ranger series for 2015-16, so now it's the Ranger 90 I'll be looking at.

The Progressor series will also be updated, by the way, but that's not an issue for me - I think I pulled the trigger on those at the right time.

If I go to Bob Skinner's early season demo at Sunapee, I can try the Fischers and the Dynastars, but they don't carry Atomics.

post #43 of 47

IMO you should focus on a 87-90mm waist ski for your second ski. In time you may find you don't ski the 75mm skis much. Then you'll be looking for something in the 105-112 range.

 

skiessentials.com  check out that web site.

post #44 of 47
Thread Starter 

Thanks Max. I plan to enjoy my P900s again next season, but demo some more 'slithery' skis in the 90 mm range when I can.

post #45 of 47

I have similar stats to you, 5' 9" 160lbs, 59 years young and love powder, soft bumps and glades (when they have fresh snow) but living in New England ski "firmer" snow 80-90% of the time. I've been on Atomic VF75's for 4 years and love carving up the groomers with them but wanted something for the occasional softer snow days and trips out west.

 

I demoed a few of the 88's (Atomic, Rossie, Kastle) and ended up buying the Rossi E88; I enjoyed them but they were not the huge improvement in soft snow I was hoping for.  I then demo'd the Rossi Soul 7 (106 wide) on a small powder day at Sunday River, loved them in the softer snow but they were only "okay" on the groomers.  They were just too slow edge to edge which I thought was due to the width of the ski, maybe you can't have it all??? 

 

Then at the end of last year I found a great deal on a pair of 178mm Line Sir Francis Bacons (108mm wide) and bought them with demo'ing  I thought, what's the worst that could happen? I'd end up with a nice set of powder skis that I'd only use once in a while. Wrong!  I love these skis!  They transition edge to edge almost as quick as my Atomics, carve almost as good and have very good edge hold on firmer snow.  In softer snow they are just so much fun!  They float wonderfully, are soft enough to be fun in bumps and trees and just do everything well. 

 

I could go on but will just say, once again, I love these skis!

post #46 of 47

You may also wish to demo some 2016 ski -- very promising skis from Fischer ( Ranger 90 , 98 ), Head (Monster 83,88,98) or Atomic ( Vantage 95 ,100)  -- only positive feedback from testers so far.

post #47 of 47
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Originally Posted by Garry S View Post
 

I have similar stats to you, 5' 9" 160lbs, 59 years young and love powder, soft bumps and glades (when they have fresh snow) but living in New England ski "firmer" snow 80-90% of the time. I've been on Atomic VF75's for 4 years and love carving up the groomers with them but wanted something for the occasional softer snow days and trips out west.

 

I demoed a few of the 88's (Atomic, Rossie, Kastle) and ended up buying the Rossi E88; I enjoyed them but they were not the huge improvement in soft snow I was hoping for.  I then demo'd the Rossi Soul 7 (106 wide) on a small powder day at Sunday River, loved them in the softer snow but they were only "okay" on the groomers.  They were just too slow edge to edge which I thought was due to the width of the ski, maybe you can't have it all??? 

 

Then at the end of last year I found a great deal on a pair of 178mm Line Sir Francis Bacons (108mm wide) and bought them with demo'ing  I thought, what's the worst that could happen? I'd end up with a nice set of powder skis that I'd only use once in a while. Wrong!  I love these skis!  They transition edge to edge almost as quick as my Atomics, carve almost as good and have very good edge hold on firmer snow.  In softer snow they are just so much fun!  They float wonderfully, are soft enough to be fun in bumps and trees and just do everything well. 

 

I could go on but will just say, once again, I love these skis!


How do you like the Line Sir Francis Bacons in soft bumps and crud ?

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