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post #61 of 66
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Originally Posted by primoz View Post
 

There's one thing to consider, and I guess Tdk6 is talking exactly about this aspect. Thing is, ski companies have two different production lines. One is normal production line, and the other is racing service. Skis for World cup racers are not made in normal production line (except for Elan, as 2 years ago, they put racing service press machine into production... yeah no comment needed). So availability of normal store skis (or even lower quality (or whatever proper word is) racing skis) is unrelated to availability and production of race skis for WC racers. Most of these things are really done in same place (WC race service concerned). Rossignol and Dynastar are made at same place, and are basically same skis. Atomic and Salomon are same (also goes for Rossi/Lange and Atomic/Salomon boots). I have no idea for Nordica/Blizzard, but I doubt it would be much different

Another issue are ski pools. Sure sometimes it's worth paying to ski pools at different ski federations twice, as even though company is under same roof, Atomic is paying their share to si pools, and Salomon is paying their share (that's why for example you have Rossi with Austrians and no Dynastar). But sometimes it's not, especially when times get tougher. Nordica did cut whole bunch of their racing service budget last season already, and signed pretty big deal with Neureuther, so they basically fired everyone else except Dopfer (they completely removed race women line, and told Rebensburg to go). So will Blizzard stay? Most likely, as for huge majority of skis, being present in racing is still best marketing possible. Will it be in all pools, probably not, they might withdraw themself from some pools and enter some new ones, but that's pretty much same with every other company. Fischer was long in Slovenian pool, but it's not anymore (it's still in nordic, but not alpine), on the other side, Atomic came. Things change, always did always will :)

 

Excellent information here. Its even more complicated than I thaught. And its all about business and money. Thank you for posting.

post #62 of 66
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Originally Posted by whygimf View Post
 

Blizzard ski manufacturer withdraws from the Austrian racing. The traditional brand (including Tecnica Ski Boots) could with the Austrian Ski / Skipool not agree on further cooperation.

The Tecnica Group for Italian brands belonging Blizzard and Tecnica end with the end of season 2014/15 meinbezirk.at according to their involvement in the Austrian racing. After decades of success with world titles and an Olympic victory last of the recently retired Mario Matt (picture) would Mittersiller Skispezialisten see the need to align the international racing, it goes on to say. The withdrawal from the Austrian Skipool did not mean the end of the commitment in the World Cup. Just last summer came the ski brand in the US Skipool back and with Germany, Italy, the Czech Republic and Finland, the contracts remain there appear to be. The Blizzard Management is quoted on meinbezirk.at as follows: "We will continue to be successful in the World Cup and to cooperate closely with our international athletes and to develop new talent. Also returning to the Austrian racing in the next few years, we reserve the right conditions for it should be effective. The brands evolve in a difficult market environment undoubtedly good, also in Austria. However, we have decided that the high level of investment resulting from a further cooperation with Austria Skipool, would exceed the expected effect significantly. The current situation in Austria caused these economically logical step, but does not affect the cooperation with other organizations. "Affected by this step include Otmar Striedinger, Florian Scheiber and Michael Matt. 

 

Thanks for this info whygimf. The rumors were true after all. However, just conserning Austria. This will indeed affect racers and race teams in that area.

post #63 of 66
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

Nobody, give the 188/30 a shot. Scotsskier raves about those. Flex is good. You could always sell them over here. Don't know about there.

Otherwise, dude stop with the Head stuff it's embarassing.

 

 

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Nobody, go for it. The 188/30 is a great ski (especially in the blizzard! ). Everyone gets hung up on the radius but it is the flex that is the real key. There is a LOT of R&D that has gon into the se skis and it shows. They have a really nice flex and they turn in really well if you roll them up on edge like they should be skied. I have racedGS on them all season and, despite having kept my 23m skis from last season, never felt the need to go back to them. The bigger ski has also helped me improve my line in the course (and times) so I am a big fan. I have the Blizz WC gs 30m in both the 183 and 188. The Volkl is very close behond as well.

 

 

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Has the 183/30? Does it have a good flex or is it not as optimized as the longer? I've heard that about the shorter men's 35 m. The 190/35.

 

 

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It is good!  I have been racing on it.  To be honest quite hard to tell the difference.  i think the difference is more pronounced on the mens GS skis

 

 

Thanks guys!

Don't want to derail this thread so I shall refrainto comment further. Maybe I will start a thread on the Blizzard 188/30 and little or bigger brothers...

post #64 of 66
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Originally Posted by Bogatyr View Post
Why even bother with the Blizzard WC situation . A quick look at the FIS brand ranking for 2015 shows the best . Head is leading everywhere except for the slalom.(Rossi and Nordica are there) So if you want to buy a WC stuff - just buy from the best !

 


As far as comparing sister brands, don't forget that while the shape is the same a lot of things may be different: wood, glues, plates, and so on. So just because they come out of the same factory doesn't necessarily mean that they are identical.

And blizzard is still VERY active in the racing world, it just doesn't get as much WC attention :cool

post #65 of 66
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Originally Posted by jzamp View Post
 

 


 

 

 

Good luck with that... true believer's are what they are and think what they think... Can we talk about global warming now? :)

post #66 of 66
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Good luck with that... true believer's are what they are and think what they think... Can we talk about global warming now? :)

 

only if it is liable to melt the glue.....and besides, it might save having to use a hot box  :)

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