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Pros/Cons Blizzard Brahma vs Rossignol Sin 7

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

I am looking for some input on the pros and cons of these two skis.  I have found a lot of info about the Brahma's on the internet but not a lot about the Sin 7 (but what little I have found is positive).  I am looking to buy a new pair of skis at year end closeout prices and think these would probably fit best for my needs.

 

I am currently using 2011 Blizzard Magnum 7.4's, 170 cm long (no rocker), which I purchased back when I was skiing in Michigan.  I now live in Colorado and am looking for something a little wider.  I have found on days with more than 3" fresh snow, the runs get very tiring at the end of the day on the narrow skis.

 

I did get a chance to demo the Brahma's in 173 cm on a 7" snow day in Steamboat and enjoyed them.  Definitely felt the difference in having more ski underfoot in fresh snow.  Despite being a more aggressive ski I didn't feel the leg fatigue I normally get in my Magnum's from skiing end of day chopped up snow.  Took them through the trees and felt like I had plenty of control.  So they fit the bill for me regarding fresh snow but I didn't get to evaluate their performance on groomers.

 

Most of my skiing is front side with the family; two young kids and my wife who prefers groomers.  However, I like to a break away for a few solo runs in the glades, off-piste, hitting the bumps or a couple 1st morning runs on the backside on snow days.   My oldest son is showing a fondness for the bumps and trees so I will have an off-piste ski buddy in a couple years.

 

My info: I'm 39, male, 5'-9" about 170 lbs, high-end advanced skier

 

Here are some of the specific question for which I am looking for input:

 

1.  Waist width?  Brahma 88mm vs Sin 7 96mm.   Is this whole East/West All-Mountain legit or market hype?  The Brahma seemed to have enough float for the type of skiing I do, but I don't want to regret not having a wider waist, which the Sin 7 has?

 

2. Level of aggressiveness needed on groomers.  Most of the time I am cruising with the family but do enjoy pushing a ski.  I am worried that the Brahma is going to unhappy when I am just cruising whereas it appears the Sin 7 doesn't need to be pushed to be a fun ski.

 

3.  80% on-piste/20% off-piste with room to grow: Your thought between the two.

 

4. Thoughts on length.  I am thinking 180 cm in either ski even though I enjoyed the 173 Brahma in fresh snow.

 

 

Sorry for the length of this post but wanted to provide plenty of information. 

post #2 of 14

The Brahma is a fairly stiff ski with at least one layer of metal and usually appeals to heavier skiers.. The Sin 7 is a soft ski favoured mostly by lighter skiers, so they usually don't end up on the same short list for skiers trying to chose a new ski.

post #3 of 14
Hi

Do you want to complement your paste ski or replace it?

The Brahma is a stiff all mountain for expert skiers while the Sin7 is a lighter version (feature wise) of the Soul7 (and the old version don't have the honeycomb tips of the Soul7 but seems this year's version do have it)

If you want the ski to add to your quiver the Sin7 could be it, but I think the brahma is more versatile.
post #4 of 14

I think the Sin 7 is a better choice for you. Your in CO not the east any more.

post #5 of 14
Since you enjoyed the 173 Brahma why not consider it? You already know how it performs in realistic powder conditions. I haven't skied the Brahma but have been on a Cochise the last few years. Flipcore really works. Put it on edge for medium to long turns or pivot for shorter ones. Speaking from experience while you're skiing with your family you can play around with all different types of turn shapes, hit the sides of the trail or duck into the trees for a few turns then come back on trail to meet up with everyone. When you get a chance to get on your own for a few runs you can open them up for big GS turns, hit some powder stashes, etc.
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by Pierre Sirois View Post
 

I am looking for some input on the pros and cons of these two skis.  I have found a lot of info about the Brahma's on the internet but not a lot about the Sin 7 (but what little I have found is positive).  I am looking to buy a new pair of skis at year end closeout prices and think these would probably fit best for my needs.

 

I am currently using 2011 Blizzard Magnum 7.4's, 170 cm long (no rocker), which I purchased back when I was skiing in Michigan.  I now live in Colorado and am looking for something a little wider.  I have found on days with more than 3" fresh snow, the runs get very tiring at the end of the day on the narrow skis.

 

I did get a chance to demo the Brahma's in 173 cm on a 7" snow day in Steamboat and enjoyed them.  Definitely felt the difference in having more ski underfoot in fresh snow.  Despite being a more aggressive ski I didn't feel the leg fatigue I normally get in my Magnum's from skiing end of day chopped up snow.  Took them through the trees and felt like I had plenty of control.  So they fit the bill for me regarding fresh snow but I didn't get to evaluate their performance on groomers.

 

Most of my skiing is front side with the family; two young kids and my wife who prefers groomers.  However, I like to a break away for a few solo runs in the glades, off-piste, hitting the bumps or a couple 1st morning runs on the backside on snow days.   My oldest son is showing a fondness for the bumps and trees so I will have an off-piste ski buddy in a couple years.

 

My info: I'm 39, male, 5'-9" about 170 lbs, high-end advanced skier

 

Here are some of the specific question for which I am looking for input:

 

1.  Waist width?  Brahma 88mm vs Sin 7 96mm.   Is this whole East/West All-Mountain legit or market hype?  The Brahma seemed to have enough float for the type of skiing I do, but I don't want to regret not having a wider waist, which the Sin 7 has?

 

2. Level of aggressiveness needed on groomers.  Most of the time I am cruising with the family but do enjoy pushing a ski.  I am worried that the Brahma is going to unhappy when I am just cruising whereas it appears the Sin 7 doesn't need to be pushed to be a fun ski.

 

3.  80% on-piste/20% off-piste with room to grow: Your thought between the two.

 

4. Thoughts on length.  I am thinking 180 cm in either ski even though I enjoyed the 173 Brahma in fresh snow.

 

 

Sorry for the length of this post but wanted to provide plenty of information. 

 

 

Have you demo'ed the Sin 7 yet?  It's not similar to the Brahma.  I demo'ed the Sin 7 at Jackson Hole a couple weeks ago (having demo'ed it last year at Sugarloaf and liked it), but this year I felt that it had a tendency to go in its own direction rather than where I wanted it to go.  I think the Brahma (which I also demo'ed last year) is more responsive and precise.  For me it was a bit stiff, but I weigh 20 pounds less than you, so that might make a difference in your favor.

 

You indicated that you ski about 80% on piste, for which the Brahma's relative "narrowness" shouldn't be a disadvantage -- even in the West (piste is piste...).  But if you want Brahma-like qualities (I use this phrase loosely) in the 90-100 waist range, there are a lot of good skis out there, including the Brahma's fatter brother, the Bonafide, and the Nordica NRGY 100 (which I tried at JH and really liked).  

 

Hope this helps.

post #7 of 14
I skied the sin 7 and it lacks grip on hard snow big time. If that's what you mostly ski, get the Brahma, Fischer Motive 86 TI or something that holds an edge.
post #8 of 14
I'm also 5'9 and 170 lbs and ski the 173 brahma. I never feel as if it's too much ski but it does need to be pushed to truly come alive. That said it's more than happy making short radius turns but can be a little demanding in the bumps if you're not a proficient bump skier. Sadly I can't compare it to the sin 7 but from what I imagine the sin 7 will be an easier, more forgiving ride and will handle any fresh snow better.
post #9 of 14
The two skis are so different, one could own both pretty easily.
post #10 of 14
But in that case I would go for the Soul7.
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

The two skis are so different, one could own both pretty easily.
post #11 of 14
Sure. Why not? Or a Salomon Q-105, Atomic Automatic 109, etc... Lot's of great offerings out there.
post #12 of 14
Get a fun ski for 80% cruising with your family and 20% running off and finding some fresh. Don't really see the need for a dampish metal layer ski in that equation, given that none of the usage really calls for dropping the hammer.

Demo the Soul 7, Salomon Q105, and Salomon Rocker2 100 (in that order biggrin.gif ), all of which should be easy to find. The Jane shop rents out all three if you ski WP. Ignore narrow skis entirely. Your future powder buddy will.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thank you all for the input (especially IceCookie for the wake up call that I can start a quiver, duh on me).  I am now looking at a two ski quiver (Blizzard Mag 7.4 for groomers and a wider ski for fresh snow).  I am now looking at Sin 7, Soul 7 and Sick Day 95.  Found good deals on the Sin 7 and Sick Day.  Put the Soul in the mix just based on the hype.

 

P.S.  Jimski, I skied JH for two day in Mid March (left just before their last dump), my 74's were great from 10 am until noon then I was wanting something wider due to the mashed potatoes.

post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by Cheizz View Post

I skied the sin 7 and it lacks grip on hard snow big time. If that's what you mostly ski, get the Brahma, Fischer Motive 86 TI or something that holds an edge.

See I disagree with this. I am a lighter weight skier but did 14 days on Whistler recently, before it started snowing again in March and this never let go anywhere. It turns shorter and slashes if you don't edge it but if you ski it like a normal ski and not a powder ski its fine on groomed. I was on the 180 but effective edge is no where near that and it still is a very capable on piste ski, let alone what it does when there is new snow.

As above though these are two quite different skis. I tried a 180 Bonifide too and it was a good ski but too much for me to get short turns out of without sliding it with my weight. The Brahma i'd image would just be a thinner feeling Bonifide so more high speed than soft snow like the Sin 7.

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