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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Looking for GOOD bindings .. Short story first..
Skiing for the last day of the year on my 2014 Firearrow 84 pro's showing off for a buddy who's standing half way down the run.
Was carving about as good as I am able, get onto some ice, ski chatters a bit and then WHAM.. im sliding down the slopes on my hip..
But before I get stopped my mind is flashing over what happened.. I am thinking my binding popped and I remember something flying by me..
Another buddy skiing with me picks up my ski and is able to find a wing off the front of the binding.. broke it..

Stats.. 6'3" 225lbs..
Ski fast and aggresive on the groomers when there is no fresh snow..

the whole experience has me over thinking things.. I could have been a much worse crash but was on a good angle for going down..


I am building up my quiver and need a good binding recommendation without breaking the bank..
I was all for marker griffons but just read they are for lighter guys..

Ideas ?

Kyle
Edited by Speerhead - 4/6/15 at 8:19am
post #2 of 20

A new binding for the FireArrow Pro's? Just to confirm, which FA Pro do you have? If it is the newer one, it can be done. Just remove the plate and hard mount a binding on the ski. I would suggest most any 14DIN (or higher) binding for someone your size. 

 

Salomon Sth2 16

Look/Rossi Turntable 14DIN

Look SPX 14 or or Rossi Axl3 140

Tyrolia Attack 16

 

Most any race binding would be a good choice too, just make sure you can swap to a wide enough brake. If going this way, a proper race plate will add hard snow performance but limit soft snow fun..your choice just know it going in. 

post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 
No,
I am hoping that nordica will do something with this when I send them pics..
Even though I didn't buy them new.. They are 2014 84Pro's
I will give these to my brother and get a set of EDT's. Hopefully they have a better set-up..

I am looking for binding to use on other skis I am going to buy since crashes due to mechanical failure sucks !.. Brahma and cochise's

Thanks

Kyle
post #4 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speerhead View Post

No,
I am hoping that nordica will do something with this when I send them pics..
Even though I didn't buy them new.. They are 2014 84Pro's
I will give these to my brother and get a set of EDT's. Hopefully they have a better set-up..

I am looking for binding to use on other skis I am going to buy since crashes due to mechanical failure sucks !.. Brahma and cochise's

Thanks

Kyle

If they don't, which they might not since you are not the original owner...let me know..I have an extra set up that I would sell cheap that I took off of FA76's that are the same.

 

I still stand by what I said in my initial post as far as a 14-16DIN binding but not the race set ups which are more for a narrower ski. 

post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

If they don't, which they might not since you are not the original owner...let me know..I have an extra set up that I would sell cheap that I took off of FA76's that are the same.

 

I still stand by what I said in my initial post as far as a 14-16DIN binding but not the race set ups which are more for a narrower ski. 

 



Great..
Thanks for the info and offer..

Kyle
post #6 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

If they don't, which they might not since you are not the original owner...let me know..I have an extra set up that I would sell cheap that I took off of FA76's that are the same.

 

I still stand by what I said in my initial post as far as a 14-16DIN binding but not the race set ups which are more for a narrower ski. 

 



What is your opinion on look pivot 14 ?
and in your opinion where should the DIN be ?

I demo'd a bunch of blizzards this winter brahma bones and the tech's kept setting to 7 saying marker griffons are good and it would be enough..
Yet I can think of twice when the release and IMO they shouldn't have !..

I know its hard without seeing me ski

Kyle
post #7 of 20

Without a boot sole length, age and skier type (probably III, but you need to choose that) there is no way to calculate DIN.

 

Giving height and weight and "I ski fast sometimes" isn't enough info.

post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

Without a boot sole length, age and skier type (probably III, but you need to choose that) there is no way to calculate DIN.



 



Giving height and weight and "I ski fast sometimes" isn't enough info.


 



Boot sole.. 325mm
age 39
how do I rate myself ?

Thanks for offering help

Kyle
post #9 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speerhead View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
 

Without a boot sole length, age and skier type (probably III, but you need to choose that) there is no way to calculate DIN.

 

 

 

Giving height and weight and "I ski fast sometimes" isn't enough info.

 



Boot sole.. 325mm
age 39
how do I rate myself ?

Thanks for offering help

Kyle

 

How do you rate yourself is here:  https://www.springmountainadventures.com/skiing-ability-chart.  Type 1, 2 or 3.

post #10 of 20
Thread Starter 
Ok..

Yup 3 and a level 7 according to epic ski ratings

Thanks

Kyle
post #11 of 20

Bindings go past just what the DIN window says. When spending more for a better binding, your buying a better housing along with a stronger spring. At your size, you need a more substantial binding. Pivot 14 is fine but the 18 is better, more metal. As Boris the Blade says, "with weight, comes reliability" 

post #12 of 20

^^ What Phil said. The higher DIN bindings are more expensive and stronger not just due to a stronger spring, but also due to beefier components.

post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 
Look pivot 18's it is..
Can anybody here let me know if the EDT bindings are better than the Firearrow 84 Pro's ?
Really disappointed when you see how little material is actually holding the toe of your boot in !

Kyle
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by Speerhead View Post

Look pivot 18's it is..
Can anybody here let me know if the EDT bindings are better than the Firearrow 84 Pro's ?
Really disappointed when you see how little material is actually holding the toe of your boot in !

Kyle

The EDT IS better but you won't find them. Here is what I did on my FireArrow 76Ti, it brings the performance of that ski to a whole new level. 

 

 

post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

The EDT IS better but you won't find them. Here is what I did on my FireArrow 76Ti, it brings the performance of that ski to a whole new level. 

 

 

 



Those look wicked..
why would I not find them ??
I can get a set of 2015 EDT 84's @ 184 for 899 right now.. (new)
Ohhh I get it.. I cant get just the binding..
No I plan on switching to the EDT ski's and giving these pro's to my brother

BTW - how would you compare the 76TI compared to the 84 ?

These are my front side ski's only

Kyle
post #16 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speerhead View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

The EDT IS better but you won't find them. Here is what I did on my FireArrow 76Ti, it brings the performance of that ski to a whole new level. 

 

 

 



Those look wicked..
why would I not find them ??
I can get a set of 2015 EDT 84's @ 184 for 899 right now.. (new)
Ohhh I get it.. I cant get just the binding..
No I plan on switching to the EDT ski's and giving these pro's to my brother

BTW - how would you compare the 76TI compared to the 84 ?

These are my front side ski's only

Kyle

You will be able to find the EDT's. The 76Ti is much quicker edt to edge and more hard snow specific..especially the way I set them up. Take a look at the skis that @mogsie has for same in Gear Swap, there are some great options for you there. 

post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by Speerhead View Post

Ok..

Yup 3 and a level 7 according to epic ski ratings

Thanks

Kyle

So, according to the DIN chart you should be set at an 8.5, if you called yourself a III+ you would chart out at 10.

post #18 of 20

I ski 180cm bonafides with the Salomon STH14 (Phil's recommendation a few years ago).  I'm 5'11 about 235 and they've held up fine to some pretty tough conditions...   They seem to release at the right times :eek, but not too early.

post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

A new binding for the FireArrow Pro's? Just to confirm, which FA Pro do you have? If it is the newer one, it can be done. Just remove the plate and hard mount a binding on the ski. I would suggest most any 14DIN (or higher) binding for someone your size. 



 



Salomon Sth2 16



Look/Rossi Turntable 14DIN



Look SPX 14 or or Rossi Axl3 140



Tyrolia Attack 16



 



Most any race binding would be a good choice too, just make sure you can swap to a wide enough brake. If going this way, a proper race plate will add hard snow performance but limit soft snow fun..your choice just know it going in. 


 




Just for discussion sake..
You don't mention marker .. Say griffon , duke ect...
Would love to hear your opinion

Kyle
post #20 of 20

http://www.dinsetting.com/

 

At your size, I filled in the numbers for you.

 

Listen to Phil, if you need a binding, buy from him.

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