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My second set of skis...but which ones?! [NYC, intermediate skiing NY, VT]

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I didn't start skiing till 4 years ago when my youngish son came home one day and said "Let's learn how to ski!"  I got hooked. I'm 50 years old now, and had to spend one of those seasons on the sidelines with an ACL ....from basketball, of course.  It's repaired and doing great. This past season was my first back.

 

So, my progress in attaining expert status was hampered a bit by the injury, plus, I work my butt off and I get maybe 20 ski days in a year, half of which are at a small 400' vert hill in NY.  I do almost all my skiing here and further upstate NY and one trip to VT if I am lucky. I will certianly be out west at some point, but I doubt it will be a regular occurance.

 

OK, so, I consider myself a sold upper intermediate skier, happy to try blacks, not quite ready to try double diamonds. I'm 6' 1" and about 200 lbs. I am fairly athletic, still play bball full tilt despite my history of injury.

 

I stick to groomers, but want to get into glades and bumps...just nothing too xtreme. Speed is not as important to me as a varied experience. I have taken some lessons, unfortunately, none of them have been to my liking and I think I have gotten little from them. The ski instructors weren't technical or discuss things in terms of biomechanics, more "feel" and illustrative technique..."watch me." I think I got more from Youtube.  I thought by getting a lesson at a place like Plattekill it would better but it shows it is hit and miss money I don't have to burn.

 

I've been skiing on what I now know are skis that are probably too short for me, Atomic Nomads in a 167 length. I've looking around entranced by wider waist skis.  Demo-ing in my neck is very hard...$75 bucks and they may or may not have the skis you want.

 

I was able to demo Dynastar Cham 97s and Line Supernatural 92 at Hunter Mountain.  The Dynastar was one which I had read a lot about, so, was glad to try a pair.  For that day, on hardpack, it was not the life-changing experience I had hoped for. The guy said, "try these again if it softens up."  Now, the Line Supernatural 92's, on the otherhand, were fabulous!  They just seemed so solid and cut through uneven snow like slicing bread. Both skis were skied in the 174cm length range.

 

So, I love the Supernaturals, but I doubt I can afford them yet.  Here's another data point I am struggling with...a sales guy, who seemed very knowledgeable, asked all sorts of questions strongly suggested the Rossi Sin 7 in a 188cm length!  I have researched the Rossi intensely and it does seem like a great ski...but what about the length?  

 

in summary:

50 years old, strong intermediate skier after 3 seasons, East Coast skiing, 6'1", 200 lbs, athletic build, want to ski bumps and glades and improve carving on groomers, not worried about speed.

 

If you have made it this far, I'd appreciate your opinions on:

 - length

- skis I have mentioned

- skis I should evaluate

- and any other .02 you care to pass on.

 

many thanks in advance!!

post #2 of 10

Your boots are more important then the skis. Make sure your boots are fitted by a great boot fitter. If you plan to ski more, foot beds are worth the money, again, only from a great boot fitter.

 

Skis, look in ski magazine Sept issue, that's the gear review issue. Read about the skis with upper 80' to lower 90's mm waist.

 

Google the ski you think you like and read the reviews.

 

https://www.skiessentials.com/ this is a place I have bought 3 pairs of ski from. Great prices and customer service. Call them if you have questions.

 

I'm a Volkl guy and love my Kendos. I'm 5'11" 195lbs ski them in 177cm, you should be fine on that size.

post #3 of 10
No reason the Line's wouldn't work in some glads in the conditions you're most likely to give them a go. I'd say 174 is a bit short for your size, weight...

If you demo something and it sings to you, by all means listen. smile.gif
post #4 of 10

Stay 90ish underfoot, going wider than that will bring diminishing returns for you. The SN92 is a great choice but I agree, the 174 is not enough ski for your size, next one up. You should be able to find this years on sale if price is a concern. As asked, what is going on with your boots? Still your first pair? I assume you are in the NY metro area, there are some good fitters around by you. IF you are in anything less than a 100 flex boot or an entry level boot, you would be better off investing in a new boot and a good tune for your Nomads before a new ski. You will get more with a better boot and a lesser ski than the other way around. IF your boots are the right ones for you...Take a look at the Dynastar PowerTrack89 and the Rossignol Experience 88, both are better options for YOU than the Cham 97 or Sin 7 from those manufactures. 

post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 

Thanks folks for the good advice and vibe!

 

I am on my second pair of boots, though, not through a fitter. I definitely noticed my first pair were "squishy." Being Mr. Cheapo, I found a pair of K2 Spyne 110's for bargain basement. I believe it was the first year they came out with boots...no doubt another cardinal sin.

 

What I found after molding the liners with warm rice, per Intuition, they fit good - not great. But, I found they got better and better fit over the season. I also find that they feel and fit better as the day progresses...I do keep them inside. I'll admit though they are not "amazingly, awesome comfortable," but they are not painful. Walking in them is no fun, but wouldn't that be hte case for most boots? That's the boot story.

 

Thanks again!

post #6 of 10

If you like Line SN92, may be if you could find: a cheaper option: Line Prophet 90 in 179 (of course if you could find one). I believe Line SN92 was a replacement for Line Prophet 90. 

RE: boots, if you have a doubt, find a good boot-fitter and ask he/she to take a peek into your current boots.

good luck.

post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
Do you have specific recomendations on fitters in N.Y. Metro area?
post #8 of 10

I second this question. I live in NYC and has no idea who's the best boot fitter / ski shop around here. Paragon Sports seems legit though.

 

Originally Posted by fluid164 View Post

Do you have specific recomendations on fitters in N.Y. Metro area?
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by fluid164 View Post
 

Thanks folks for the good advice and vibe!

 

I am on my second pair of boots, though, not through a fitter. I definitely noticed my first pair were "squishy." Being Mr. Cheapo, I found a pair of K2 Spyne 110's for bargain basement. I believe it was the first year they came out with boots...no doubt another cardinal sin.

 

 

That's ...on the soft side for 200lbs athletic build.     Not unworkable, but deffo soft. 

 

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Originally Posted by fluid164 View Post

 

What I found after molding the liners with warm rice, per Intuition, they fit good - not great.

 

Hmmmn...they should fit great, or at least that's the point attempted to be made by the posters above.



My point goes a bit beyond that, to wit:  with a relatively soft boot and a thermally mouldable liner like an Intuition "not painful" is too low a bar - they should be amazingly awesomely comfortable and they should be perfectly OK to walk in with only a mild gait change and they should be both accurately fitted enough and balanced enough for the skier to be able to ski on one ski down a green at least.    

If that's not quite the case, then changing skis can only go so far to give a better experience before boot issues create a control and sensation plateau beyond which one cannot progress. 



 

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Originally Posted by fluid164 View Post

Do you have specific recomendations on fitters in N.Y. Metro area?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Vevesand View Post
 

 

Not in the metro area, but I go to Heino's in NJ, they're great

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