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Hot Dog: The Movie, The Sequel?

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From Teton Gravity Research...


Editor's Note: Hot Dog! The Journal is TGR Contributor Christian W. Dietzel’s inside account of Hollywood writer/director/producer Mike Marvin's fight to streamline to make a sequel to 'Hotdog! The Movie.' Dietzel is also engrossed in writing and developing Marvin’s untold life story as an outspoken ski film pioneer, and his later Hollywood career as a biographical docudrama called ‘A Notorious Run,' which Dietzel hopes is a combination of the 'Man On Wire’ of skiing with a ‘Boogie Nights’ twist that covers the distance of Robert Evans' 'The Kids Stays In The Picture.' Audiences should read his ‘Hotdog! The Legacy’ column and should keep an eye out for other media projects on the horizon spun from this universe.

patrick-houser,-david-naughton-and-tracy-smith-in-hot-dog...-the-movie-(1984)-large-picture.jpgWill Harkin Banks and the gang return in 2016?

March 7th, 2015. It’s a ballsack-hot day in L.A. and only slightly cooler inside the paper-strewn office of producer Mike Marvin’s Santa Monica townhouse, where we sit performing a table reading of the working script of the sequel to Hotdog! The Movie alongside his ex-wife Michele. The former couple wraps up, bent over in laughter browsing her scantily clad photos from the archives I’ve been charged with digitally transferring that could make Playmate Shannon Tweed blush. On the couch to my left, the marshmallow-scented puffs of their daughter Ariel’s vaporizer rolls in clouds across the room as she listens to our little performance from an indifferent cross-legged posture on the couch.

When the family gets together with Daddy to act out lines from the project that could make or break the last act of his storied career in Tinsel Town (the man has just turned 70), you know development has begun in earnest. That’s exactly the state of affairs with Mike Marvin’s quest to remake his 1984 cult classic, Hotdog! The Movie, possibly the greatest cult classic Hollywood film ever made that had anything to do with skiing 
Michele slaps my wrist, leading the read with a sultry voiceover. 

“You be Le Morphion, kid. I’ll do camera direction, scene beats, and read for Chalker. Mikey can be Harkin.”

Credits roll in with Hot Dog! The Movie, as we fade in:


Melodrama and cinema quality dictation echo through the room as Michele delivers us through the opening beat, hard verbs, tortured spires of living granite, the flash of a Cessna, radio garble. Into the valley floor we go, cutting now to Ext. Valley Floor, onto Jaques Le Morphion, I’m preparing my best froggy dialect, and ...

“I am readeee for zuh-shot! Monsieur Chalker?! Come in on zee radio, sil vous plait–if you please!”

Michele’s back with the camera, the single engine plane buffeting now as we’re on the precipice of crashing, and...


“Closer, mon dieux! I must have realism! Closer!” I belt.

Michele’s belting more story beats with lines about Go Pros and a fucknut named Buzz Chalker, melding into her own one liner as ‘Chalker’.

“We’re caught in a fuckin’ rotor, kid!! This Froggy’s gonna get us killed!”

Detailing her ex-man’s character that is a Go-Pro'ed out Harkin Banks, we’re ready to jump into a wintry airspace, as Marvin utters his own line, and...

“The heck’s a rotor, Chalker?!”

The reading from page one on flows on tit for tat as we hotdog our way through the first act and into the second, pressing through to his most recent revisions up to the 70 page mark. The table reading on this afternoon is a warm family moment for Mike Marvin, whose quiet interior life while gearing up for the producing war ahead is a fascinating look at a Hollywood animal’s machinations and the many invisible processes that take a concept from a script to the screen.

Business is run from his townhouse, where we write, hang out with the family, hustle phone calls, massage line changes, and angle for interviews for his biopic I’m headlining the development of. Amazing what kind of studio work happens between one’s ears and in the simple setting of a home office these days.

“Ok sweetie, we’re out. That was hot stuff!” comments Michele. “Oh, and I like the kid. You should let him run with what he wants. ” 

We wrap up as the whiff of Ariel’s marshmallow vape curls over one final time. And as Marvin’s girls head off into the beat of Santa Monica, I’m left with the breathless feeling of having just shredded through the script that just may become Hollywood’s next great sex comedy.


hot_dog_image1.pngWill Mike Marvin's campaign to remake Hot Dog! The Movie succeed in 2016? Original movie poster from the 1984 original.

The current direction of the new Hotdog! is an evolution of the first story line following the central journey of Harkin Banks bumping into a party-happy Sunny. In the script, Harkin readies to make what Marvin envisions as the most spectacular ski performance in all of cinematic history, with his Jacques Le Morphion character introduced as the seedy French ski filmmaker making a movie about Harkin’s freeskiing adventures.

READ ALSO: The Story of Ski Porn You'll Never Believe

We’re thrown into the raucous world of modern competitive freeskiing, only this time in the place of the backdrop of freestyle moguls, aerials, and ski ballet, our intrepid hero Harkin Banks is headed out to Squaw Valley to compete in the “Lord Of The Boards” contest, a four-pronged event combining slopestyle, skier cross, half pipe, and big mountain skiing in order to establish the best all-around skier in the world.

The rest of the 'ski-ploitation' elements are all there, with plenty of ass grabbing, hot tub antics, slug-sized joints, and antagonistic Russian competitors stepping up in place of the Austrian ones from the original. Mike Marvin’s remake of  Hotdog! The Movie is gearing up as any great sex comedy should, making adjustments in scope and language to start roping in actors for an epicurean cinematic experience sure to make the producers of The Hangover blush. In short, there will even be more sauce to taste this time around.

mike_marvin_with_sunny.jpgMike Marvin posing with actress Tracey Smith, who played Sunny in the original Hotdog!. Photo courtesy of Mike Marvin.

The remake to Hotdog! has been a longtime passion project, a heritage piece in homage to his sex comedy talent and former life as an outspoken ski film pioneer during the boom times of freestyle skiing that raged from 1971 until its dramatic implosion at the end of the 1977 competition season. And while others have asked why Marvin would want to do a remake of the ultimate ski spoof–to which my go-to response harps on the deep heritage of the original film–Marvin’s answer is more simple.

“To make money, dude. It has to be commercial to pull something like this off... but there’s also a lot of heritage.”

Heritage indeed. But that’s another story, one that starts at the very dawn of ski porn. Drop in on my Hotdog! The Legacy column for a taste of that pie. 

rick_sylvester_base_jump.jpgRick Sylvester drops like a stone towards the valley floor of Yosemite Valley during the world’s first ever ski cliff BASE jump, January 31st, 1972, filmed for Mike Marvin’s seminal 1972 ski film Earth Rider. This photo would go on to make the front page of the LA Times before snowballing across newspapers the world over. Photo courtesy of the Henry Diltz Gallery.

The story in development for the Hotdog! remake is somewhat likened to the cult classic tribute remake that George Miller has recently put together for Mad Max: Fury Road, where we will be seeing Max united with the Furiosa heroine. “Idaho wonder boy ski film star Harkin Banks meets party girl Sunny on his quest to become world champion freeskier, vibing with agro Russian snot bag rival Ivan Yakinoff in a balls-deep competition to be the king of the hill” sums up the log line for preparations for this remake.

Consider also how director John Milius’s 1978 surf classic Big Wednesdayignited the “surfploitation” genre, going all the way to complete flops like Blue Crush and the bare bottom of Matthew McConaughey's career, Surfer, Dude. In the same fashion, Hotdog! had a large influence on the wide succession of “skiploitation” films to trickle in across Hollywood’s radar in the ensuing decades, an ever more curious consideration taking into account Mike Marvin’s original continues to be the only widely commercially successful Hollywood ski film in history, having grossed some $38 million worldwide. If any project has the raw kinetic ability to kickstart the scope of skiing back into Tinsel Town’s mainstream, it stands to reason the Hotdog! remake harbors that power.

Marvin’s crucible will be to attach the right people to the project, from the director to the cast to the writers that make the final adjustments updating the concept, and to then hotdog his way through the filming with out-of-this-world cinematography, such as with the new iteration of the infamous Chinese downhill. While he may direct himself, no final decision has been made.

Finance has also been achieved, with a cool $12,000,000 in the pipeline. But pressing the go button to spend it is not as simple as ski fans might like it to be, a side to this emerging story I will be addressing in following journal entries.

“What the fuck do we do if there’s no snow?” asks Marvin we as continue through the afternoon hashing out the development plan in his home studio HQ. My answer to him remains steadfast that all prayers are best answered by putting your sermon on the page.


As such, an entirely new story direction may evolve over the coming year of development, especially considering the fretful factor of the western United States’ continued lack of snowfall. The consistent diminished accumulation could threaten continuity with shoot locations, potentially leaving it up to the team to write some fantastic twist into the plot connected to the climate change starting to wrack the ski industry.

“Squallywood” (Squaw Valley) may be the heart of the script setting for now, but other directions like writing in a Lord Of The Boardstour moving through Jackson Hole, Alaska, Chamonix, or Japan that kicks off out of the destination extreme skiing scene that was host to the original Hotdog! could just as well make the final cut in some fashion depending on the development teams continued talks with their executives, and how it all shakes out on the page with adjusting to mother nature.

But remember, it’s a sex comedy, not a ski porn. While there’s sure to be some of the most mind boggling ski cinematography we’ve seen come out of Hollywood in years, the story is most closely centered around not just what happens below Harkins’ legs, but also what happens between them–and everything else off the slopes. 


Contributor Christian Dietzel's wild exploration into the racy, hilarious, and crazy career of Hot Dog! The Movie director Mike Marvin. 



From Hot Dog: The 30th Anniversary Reunion last year. 


Could it happen? Should it happen? 

post #2 of 16

I dunno know, Dude. That movie just really tied the sport together.

post #3 of 16

How do you see a sequel? 

Would you imagine it as a reunion, a passing of the torch to the children of the original cast, or something else? 

post #4 of 16

I could picture a sequel as Rudi, Harkin, and some of the others being coaches of national teams of new school jibbers fighting it out in the Olympics or X-Games.  Game on!

post #5 of 16

It's a remake, not a sequel. Like what they're doing with 'Mad Max'. Same central character, slightly different storyline. The backdrop of Jacques Le Morphion making a ski movie about Harkin Banks is the primary change, no more freestyle. 

post #6 of 16
Originally Posted by Vin Dietzel View Post

It's a remake, not a sequel. Like what they're doing with 'Mad Max'. Same central character, slightly different storyline. The backdrop of Jacques Le Morphion making a ski movie about Harkin Banks is the primary change, no more freestyle. 

Freestyle hasn't been freestyle for a while. 

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I think the Sequel needs to be the passing of the torch to the new generation of riders. Sport is about evolving and progressing. With today's cinematic technology I can see this one being pretty damn good and hopefully cornball funny! Hell, you can even get that GoPro under the water in the Hot tub now!!! I'm looking forward to hearing the next phase!

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Originally Posted by Freeride View Post

I think the Sequel needs to be the passing of the torch to the new generation of riders. Sport is about evolving and progressing. With today's cinematic technology I can see this one being pretty damn good and hopefully cornball funny! Hell, you can even get that GoPro under the water in the Hot tub now!!! I'm looking forward to hearing the next phase!

That's kind of what I was thinking when I heard Sequel.  IMHO its very rare for a remake to hold up to the classic. 

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

 IMHO its very rare for a remake to hold up to the classic. 

Especially almost 40 years later.  Titanic comes to mind though. Perhaps they will troll our retro and ludite threads to round up the period correct gear?

post #10 of 16

I never thought we'd see Hot Dog 2 before Aspen Extreme 2...

post #11 of 16

I saw a preview the other night to the remake of POLTERGEISTS. It looked like the exact same story as the original only with a different cast. Doesn't appear they changed it up at all.

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I remember trying to collect all of the music from "HOT DOG" -- Mitch Ryder, Duran, Duran...never could find the opening song "Love Starts at the Top of the Hill". Now with I-tunes maybe I can find it.

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Boy, times sure does fly when you have an injury and miss two seasons of skiing.  It's been about that long since I last logged on.


I stumbled across this thread and thought I'd resurrect it as I have all the 'hard to find' music from the movie sitting on a file server (Mediafire) where anybody can download it.  Some of the songs have some interesting history to them, as they were created specifically for the movie and never made available anywhere.  This information is basically the same as a post I made on the IMDB message board for the movie back in 2011.


After a huge amount of searching, I managed to find some of the more difficult to find tracks from the film (I didn't bother with the easy to find ones, like Duran Duran's 'Hungry Like the Wolf').  I have made  them all available in a download folder on Mediafire (it's a free site, but it's ad driven so some anti-spam or anti-malware programs might give a warning when you go to it... but there's no danger).


The songs hosted in my Mediafire folder for Hot Dog are the following. 


Studio recording of the original (never released) song "Hold On" by Clif Magness (used during the ballet and aerial competitions). This song was created for the movie and apparently not even Clif Magness has the studio recording... but I do, and it sounds amazing.


"When You Were Mine" by Mitch Ryder (used during the ski montage when Harkin first hooks up with the Rat Pack (studio recording, not a DVD rip).  This was a cover of a song by Prince and was included on Mitch Ryder's 1983 comeback album, 'Never Kick a Sleeping Dog".


The never released song "(Love Starts at the) Top of the Hill" by Clif Magness (used during the opening credits ski montage). I ripped this from the DVD I own, as the song was never released anywhere.


I have uploaded two versions of "Dreamers on the Rise" (used in the bedroom scene when Harkin serenades Sunny).  The original (non-movie) version is by John Stewart.  The version used in the movie was a cover version produced specifically for the movie, and isn't available anywhere.  What's interesting is that when you look at the movie credits there happens to be 'performer' credits for every song except this one.  The movie version sounded amazingly like it might have actually been Patrick Houser, the actor who played Harkin Banks, but in March of 2014 I found out who performed the song directly from the horse's mouth (i.e. Mike Marvin, the movie's writer/producer).  It was performed by folk artist Chuck McDermott with guitar by Mike Marvin.  As I was unable to track down a proper studio version of Dreamers on the Rise from the movie, I ripped it from the DVD (it therefore has some extraneous background noise such as the running bathroom faucet early in the scene).  In addition to uploading both versions of the song to Mediafile, I also uploaded the video clip of the movie scene, complete with captioned lyrics, to YouTube at http://youtu.be/fCVEFuuSUkA


The download link for all the songs is http://www.mediafire.com/?idz3x4c9khztw 

Again, if you happen to get any kind of warning when accessing Mediafire, it's a standard browser warning (the hosting site is a good one, and the files are clean).  You can always scan the files after downloading for peace of mind.


Enjoy... and happy skiing :)


By the way, does anybody know when the DVD release will be for 'Dog Days of Winter'?

Edited by exracer - 1/12/16 at 8:34pm
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Hey, little rookie.  Do you know what I had for breakfast this morning?.......

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Originally Posted by SotaBoatnSki View Post

Hey, little rookie.  Do you know what I had for breakfast this morning?.......



"I had sunny side up, sunny side down and sunny side all zee way around"

post #16 of 16

Not on zat side, not on zis side, but right in ze middle.

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