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Confirmed: VW bringing Golf Sportwagen Alltrack to the U.S. (for now...)

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 Golf SportWagen Alltrack
Coinciding with the arrival of the all-new Golf SportWagen, currently available in dealer showrooms, Volkswagen is pleased to announce that the all-wheel-drive Alltrack model will go on sale in 2016 as a 2017 model. "We have heard from dealers and customers that they want to see a Golf SportWagen with the all-terrain capability that comes from all-wheel drive," said Michael Horn, President and CEO of Volkswagen Group of America, Inc. "We are delighted to introduce the SportWagen Alltrack in 2016 in the U.S."

Technical and visual differences between the Golf SportWagen and the Alltrack include a 4MOTION® all-wheel-drive system, nearly an inch higher ground clearance, wheelarch moldings and flared side sills that offer body protection, newly designed bumpers, and an even more upscale interior.

The 4MOTION all-wheel drive system uses the latest generation Haldex-5 coupling, activated via an electro-hydraulic oil pump. In normal driving, the Alltrack acts like a front-wheel-drive car for better fuel economy, but as soon as the system detects wheel slip, up to 50 percent of the drive torque can be shipped to the rear wheels. In addition to the Haldex coupling that acts longitudinally, electronic differential locks (EDL) at the front and rear axles act laterally in concert with the electronic stability control system. The system briefly brakes a wheel that is slipping, enabling uninterrupted and stable transfer of drive power to the wheel on the opposite side.

 

*Hopefully VW is NOT pulling a April 1 prank on us. 


Edited by Philpug - 10/7/15 at 2:57pm
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With diesel engine and 6 speed manual?

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With diesel engine and 6 speed manual?

TBD? I wold love to see it but I think gas and I wouldn't be surprised if it is just the DSG tranny. 

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All the articles I've read are less than a day old, but no diesel due to AWD/emissions requirements/space problems. Apparently, to satisfy US requirements there just isn't room in the car for diesel and AWD together. And so far, sounds like just the DSG. :-(
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I'm excited.

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Has VW fixed their reliability issue?

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But but I don't WANNA wait until 2016!! We need a new AWD before next winter!

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But but I don't WANNA wait until 2016!! We need a new AWD before next winter!

Ditto. I don't know if my Band-Aids are going to hold much longer on this car.
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No TDI version???? Wah! What about Audi? Any AWD Audi TDI?

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No TDI version???? Wah! What about Audi? Any AWD Audi TDI?

Tough to fit both the multi-link rear suspension and the urea tank required by U.S. diesel emission standards underneath the wagon, from what I hear.

 

Or it could just be VW continuing to refuse to bring over what the U.S. market really wants.

 

My personal perfect version of this car would be equipped with the 2.0 turbo and a six-speed stick.  If we're REALLY lucky, we'll see the 1.8 turbo and a five-speed stick.

 

But we should know a lot more after the New York show.

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I'll take either with a stick.. Or since we've got all these newfangled "manual" transmissions, I want my clutch!

Slightly more info in this article.
Edited by sibhusky - 4/1/15 at 9:02pm
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Tough to fit both the multi-link rear suspension and the urea tank required by U.S. diesel emission standards underneath the wagon, from what I hear.

 

Or it could just be VW continuing to refuse to bring over what the U.S. market really wants.

 

My personal perfect version of this car would be equipped with the 2.0 turbo and a six-speed stick.  If we're REALLY lucky, we'll see the 1.8 turbo and a five-speed stick.

 

But we should know a lot more after the New York show.


That's the same reason they use for not having the oil burner in the Tiguan.  My VW dealer thinks it is more of an excuse than a reason.

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Damn Germans!

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That's the same reason they use for not having the oil burner in the Tiguan.  My VW dealer thinks it is more of an excuse than a reason.

 

 

IIRC, VW already sells a TDI Tiguan in Europe.  

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IIRC, VW already sells a TDI Tiguan in Europe.  


They do.  The excuse my dealer gave me was that VW didn't want to dilute their Audi AWD / turbo diesel / stick sales.

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Here is the VW press release about the Golf Sportwagen line (minus the AWD version) with many details about engine and transmission choices.

http://media.vw.com/release/944/

 

 

It would be nice if they stuck the 2.0 turbo engine from the GTI into the Alltrack (210hp/258 lb-ft torque) but that would be breathing down the audi allroad at a lower price point.


Edited by x10003q - 4/3/15 at 11:01am
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They do.  The excuse my dealer gave me was that VW didn't want to dilute their Audi AWD / turbo diesel / stick sales.

 

So much for putting the customer first... 

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Automotive News Europe
April 3, 2015 06:01 CET 

With U.S. car buyers deserting the Volkswagen brand in droves, VW Group CEO Martin Winterkorn has offered up a mea culpa.

Speaking to a German car magazine, Winterkorn acknowledged his team became complacent after the initial success of VW's U.S.-built Passat, making mistakes that led to a 10 percent sales decline last year in a growing market. 

"We were careless and paid the price. ... We rested too much on the laurels of the U.S. Passat and were not prepared for the response from the Japanese, who quickly brought a new Toyota Camry or Honda Accord to market," Winterkorn told PS Welt.

In October, he told Germany's Der Spiegel magazine that U.S. managers "should have jumped on my desk" to tell him to improve the Passat, adding that his personal focus was now more on the U.S. operations.

Winterkorn also conceded that the brand still lacks a model that appeals to the American zeitgeist: "Our greatest successes in the USA, the Jetta and the Passat, are not exactly the most emotional of cars," he told PS Welt. "They are very functional, practical and durable, but we need to find a different way to reach the souls of the Americans."

 
 
 

Well, ya think? Ask Captain Kirk said..."Like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target". Lets see if they can fix it by bringing the Golf Alltrack WITH a diesel and WITH a stick. 

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IIRC, VW already sells a TDI Tiguan in Europe.  


The reason I got was again the Urea tank.  They are not required in Europe as the Europeans are more concerned with CO2 emissions and we particulate matter.  Since the European version doesn't have the Urea tank they have room in the rear end for  the AWD system.  Still don't know if I buy that explanation.

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My TDi '10 Jetta sedan doesn't have a urea tank, and the diesel sport wagon doesn't either.
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My TDi '10 Jetta sedan doesn't have a urea tank, and the diesel sport wagon doesn't either.


Required for all vehicles made after 1 January 2010.  Your 2010 model was most likely manufactured in 2009.

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I went to the NY Car show with my daughter. The Golf SportWagen Alltrack looks great in person.

 

 

 

 

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They also had a Golf SprtWagen TDI

 

 

 

 

 

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I spy a manual transmission...

Any chance they'll be available in the fall of 2015??

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They also had a Golf SprtWagen TDI

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Reminds me of Ziggy...

 

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I spy a manual transmission...

Any chance they'll be available in the fall of 2015??

I think we will see the manual in the regular TDI (FWD), but knowing VW, I wouldn't bet we will see it in the Alltrack. 

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I spy a manual transmission...
Any chance they'll be available in the fall of 2015??
I think we will see the manual in the regular TDI (FWD), but knowing VW, I wouldn't bet we will see it in the Alltrack. 

Phil, you're dashing my hopes... :-(
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I spy a manual transmission...
Any chance they'll be available in the fall of 2015??
I think we will see the manual in the regular TDI (FWD), but knowing VW, I wouldn't bet we will see it in the Alltrack. 

Phil, you're dashing my hopes... :-(

Sorry, but we have been burned so many times in the past with what VW teases..then actually offers, I am so jaded. 

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Question: Why does it cost an extra 4 to 5 grand for the diesel? 

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Question: Why does it cost an extra 4 to 5 grand for the diesel? 

In VW Jetta/Golf world it isn't, what is deceptive is how they package the drivetrains, in reality, it is only $2-2500 when you compare apples to apples. 

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