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FS NEW 2013 DYNASTAR SPEED COURSE TI (183 CM) + LOOK RACING PX14

post #1 of 26
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These skis are what define "versatile detuned gs skis"! You can carve crazy with these, really nice edge grip... But you can also carve in crud, end of the day on-piste conditions and even spring like conditions! I did also a lot of bumps and even tree skiing in up to 1 foot of new snow on these ( unexpected snow and didn't have my other skis) and I had a blast!!! The secret behind that versatility? I think it is the smoother flex of that 183 lenght versus the 177 that I tried but tought it was a tad stiffer... So I'm keeping one pair but will be selling my spare...

121-72-106; radius: 17m

525$

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 26
That radius is not overly turny for a 183?
post #3 of 26

That is a really good ski. 

post #4 of 26
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That radius is not overly turny for a 183?

Funny you ask since I was thinking about that this morning when I realized it is a 17 radius ski... It ski like a 19-20 m radius ski in terms of stability and ability for big radius turns but you can also do more easily medium radius turns than a r-power or a rossi master...

post #5 of 26

Mogsie you need buy shorter skis so they are of use to me once you tire of them :D

If they were a 177 I would bite as I have yet to pull the trigger on a groomer ski for next season.

 

- Andy

post #6 of 26
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I do have a K2 rictor 82 XTI in 177...new... ;)

post #7 of 26
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This pair was sold but I have another one (same thing) that have less than 3 days on them, if interested...

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post #9 of 26
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Mogsie you need buy shorter skis so they are of use to me once you tire of them biggrin.gif
If they were a 177 I would bite as I have yet to pull the trigger on a groomer ski for next season.

- Andy

Yeah, if had had one wish on EpicSki it would be for mogsie and Finndog each to lose some height and weight. Mogsie by two sizes and Finn by one.
post #10 of 26
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Yeah, if had had one wish on EpicSki it would be for mogsie and Finndog each to lose some height and weight. Mogsie by two sizes and Finn by one.

I hear you! Trying to loose some weight right now! Not sure it would change a lot in my skis lenght choice... For example, For the R-Power, had the choice between the 174 and 181 and there is no way I'll go with the 174...prefer longer skis...

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Yeah, if had had one wish on EpicSki it would be for mogsie and Finndog each to lose some height and weight. Mogsie by two sizes and Finn by one.

Hunh ... I was also wishing for gender changes.
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Yeah, if had had one wish on EpicSki it would be for mogsie and Finndog each to lose some height and weight. Mogsie by two sizes and Finn by one.

Hunh ... I was also wishing for gender changes.
Who would you like reassigned?
post #13 of 26
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Hunh ... I was also wishing for gender changes.

So I could buy a nice rossi temptation... Girl skis are very nice...

post #14 of 26
How would these skis compare to say nordica firearrow 84's.. ??


Kyle
post #15 of 26
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I would say it is the FA 84 EDT of the Freestyle skis category... Good in similar conditions but better flottation and better in bumps and off-piste...

post #16 of 26
I have a set of firearrow 84 pros
Love em but need a longer version. I am on 177
Would these be stiff enough for me at 225 6-3 ?

I like the stiffness of the firearrow !

Kyle
post #17 of 26
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Well lets just say that I owned a F.A. 84 EDT in 176 cm and I sold them but kept the Speed Course...

I would say that for carving, the speed course will be similar to your F.A. pro but will be quicker, probably better on hardpack and icy conditions, about the same in softer conditions or in crud... I can carve like crazy in crud with these!

I never thought that the FA was good in more than a couple of inches of snow, in bumps or off-piste... I skied ( and had fun doing it) the speed course in about a foot of snow, in trees and in bumps...

 

I had a lot of fun carving with my Fire Arrow 84 edt; same thing with my speed course but with definitly more versatility...

 

I'm 6'; 210 pounds...and I'm an agressive skier...with a smile!

post #18 of 26
They have round tips compared to FA 84 edt evo.
FA in frozen slush bumps = not so great esp when it's short-168cm. Doesn't like to bend over tbe bump wall.
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They have round tips compared to FA 84 edt evo.
FA in frozen slush bumps = not so great esp when it's short-168cm. Doesn't like to bend over tbe bump wall.

Funny because I said the same thing for the Speed Course... didn't liked the 177 in bumps but the 183 was fun!

You're also wright about the tips!

post #20 of 26
God those square tips for a non powder ski are .... Dumb. Even going into the lift corral if you hit the wood post it stops instead of glancing off. Slush- not goid but dealable. But why?
Phil says the Blizzard 8.7 Fs blah blah suspension version is a round tip FA 84 edt evo? You agree?
post #21 of 26
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God those square tips for a non powder ski are .... Dumb. Even going into the lift corral if you hit the wood post it stops instead of glancing off. Slush- not goid but dealable. But why?
Phil says the Blizzard 8.7 Fs blah blah suspension version is a round tip FA 84 edt evo? You agree?

No. The M-Power 8.7 Full Suspension... is a do-it all skis: icy, soft snow, high speed, low speed, bumps, trees...Name it, it can do it!

My only problem with them is that ( for me) their flex is  just a tad too soft... nothing like the rictor 82, but between the rictor and the Brahma...At the same time, it is that flex that makes them a do-it all ski...Btw, it is a tank in crud conditions! So smooth and fun while everyone else is leaving the slopes!

post #22 of 26
It's odd, I don't find the 168 FA Evo edt stiff. It has a nice flex actually. I guess if you don't get it on and off edge it's taking you for a ride. I really don't understand why so many people didn't like it. Other than the tip shape, which is never mentioned by the dislikers.

I will say the Kastle MX 83 is much more versatile but their sizing jumps are moronic. I'd like to try that in 183.
post #23 of 26

MX83 has always come in 183.  ( 153, 163, 173, 183 )

I have a new set in 173 in transit to me.

 

MX88 come in 158, 168, 178, 188

 

- Andy

post #24 of 26
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MX83 has always come in 183.  ( 153, 163, 173, 183 )
I have a new set in 173 in transit to me.

MX88 come in 158, 168, 178, 188

- Andy
Yes, and instead of filling the gap make you buy a completrly different ski? Like the MX 78. Stupid. Ask a dealer the # 1 complaint and sizing is it. But this is very old news.

The 173 feels like a ....173/4. (Great ski btw.) Despite lengthy posts about how long it skis it's no longer than a Blizzard 174.
post #25 of 26

I've always been interested in why the MX78 came in a 176 (or a 178 in later models) and then a 184.  That one breaks the 10cm rule.

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