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post #31 of 59
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SME is fine, Alpine express is the other.  Personally, I would see how much a private coach would be.  It can take a very long time to actually get to your hotel during that week with all the stops they have to make.  The Holiday inn is a nice place, its on the s/e side of town so its not walking distance to anything but you can take there shuttles to downtown.  Rex's is on-site and that's a good restaurant.  Next season Republic Air is not servicing the DEN-HDN shuttle so we are all hopeful the flights will be much more regular (meaning they will actually fly and not cancel).  


Feel free to hit me up with any questions.  Glad to hear you are heading up.

Who will be servicing that route then? Another one of UA's regional carriers?

It costs over 300 dollars one way for a private coach. If we were able to find another group going to the same hotel the same time, maybe we could split the cost and both get a faster ride. Does anyone ever do that?
post #32 of 59
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Who will be servicing that route then? Another one of UA's regional carriers?

It costs over 300 dollars one way for a private coach. If we were able to find another group going to the same hotel the same time, maybe we could split the cost and both get a faster ride. Does anyone ever do that?

 

hmm, how many people do you have?  I may have a cheaper guy for you.  (no, not me)  

 

I am not sure who the new carrier is but Republic was soooo awful, anyone will be an improvement.

post #33 of 59
Yeah, Republic sucks.

Don't they have a EWR-HDN direct?

It's nice to avoid DEN if possible.
post #34 of 59
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Yeah, Republic sucks.

Don't they have a EWR-HDN direct?

It's nice to avoid DEN if possible.

 

Yes, he could def' fly from EWR starting that Saturday before Christmas direct via United.   

post #35 of 59
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hmm, how many people do you have?  I may have a cheaper guy for you.  (no, not me)  

We're a group of 3.
post #36 of 59

ahh, ok, I thought you were part of a larger group.   You may be OK since you are the furthest hotel 

post #37 of 59
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ahh, ok, I thought you were part of a larger group.   You may be OK since you are the furthest hotel 

Wouldn't the first hotel take the longest?
post #38 of 59
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Wouldn't the first hotel take the longest?

usually they start at the furthest point and work back.  their location is on the west side of town and since you are on 40 past the resort, it would make sense for them to work back.  

post #39 of 59
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How close is the nearest bus stop to the Holiday inn? They run a private shuttle to the mountain, but I don't think they go to the town in the evening except twice. To go there, I'm thinking we'd need to take the Steamboat Springs shuttle.
post #40 of 59
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Originally Posted by snoloco View Post
 

We're going to Steamboat, done deal.  We were originally going to stay on mountain, but we'll be there for 6-7 nights,.....

 

We are going to stay at the Holiday Inn ......................a free door-door shuttle that runs every 15 minutes directly from the hotel to the mountain.  The suite we looked at cost 270 a night and was refundable and changeable.  The hotel was recently remodeled and got overwhelmingly good reviews.  We are looking forward to the trip.

 

nice deal, I even appreciate you getting me to check the rates for basic rooms at the "out a bit" hotels .. the price isn't bad at all and as you note, one can cancel ... well, some hotels want a few days .. but price is making me ponder to check now and reserve as I can cancel. When we went for 3 days two seasons ago (Dec 2014 between Christmas and New Years) the crowds weren't bad and while I thought Pony was closed, may be in error, but we had a good time hitting the Buddies run side ... and now that I type, I do recall taking Longhorn .. I think ... darn old age!

 

getting around is easy as noted .. the town has a free bus system so a car really isn't needed. But should your dad have a corp rate, a rental car might be doable if really wanted.   I note nearly an extra $300 (for my rates) which in my mind I'd rather use for a lot of food upgrades!

 

Anyhow, thanks snoloco! might end up seeing you with my kids!  Also, use Finndog, he knows the boat but even more important .. work it out so he's there. He seems to bring forth the snow!

post #41 of 59

I concur........the snow seems to follow @Finndog at Steamboat....he showed up when we were there and it started puking! It's uncanny!! :D

post #42 of 59
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@pete, Longhorn is off Pony, so it had to have been open. You probably skied that loft and didn't remember which one it was.

The hotel room we're in is the largest type in that hotel, since we're gonna be there 7 nights! We wanted the extra space because of the longer stay and that we will operate on slightly different schedules. It is really more like a 1br condo without a kitchen than a hotel room.

We never prioritized having a full kitchen since part of the fun will be seeing the town in the evening and eating out.
post #43 of 59
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@pete, Longhorn is off Pony, so it had to have been open. You probably skied that loft and didn't remember which one it was.



We never prioritized having a full kitchen since part of the fun will be seeing the town in the evening and eating out.

 

agreed on the eating out aspect. with my older kids we'd hit a restaurant after the day and then lounge about doing puzzles or sadly, watching Property Brothers ...  but would seldom skip a pool / hot tub ...

 

I actually know Steamboat fairly well, thanks to my daughters, they took a lot of classes and my eldest knows the place like the back of her hand. I often choose the routes but this last trip my eldest choose, she had her lowly (ok, I really like the guy) snowboarding boyfriend along the trip so chose what and when to ski. I like Longhorn as it was quite nice and one can hit some small moguls (most would simply call bumps) near the bottom, trying to get used to these things without falling but I do often and really don't care if it's soft. I believe we skied it but ... I was busy trying to keep up ; )  we just hit run after run and cut all about those 3 days.

 

We like Longhorn too as one can do loops and hit Wapiti just shy of half way down for some nice change or up high hit Cabin Fever which normally is a wide reasonable (from my limited level) black normally full of rolling bumps and still cut out to Longhorn to avoid steeper stuff ... something my kids let me avoid.

 

I guess my comment is be kind to your mom! If she turns out to be ok with shorter black/blues, then Longhorn is fairly nice (long) and doable if groomed for someone who's ok with the likes of shorter blacks like Rolex or West Side. Perhaps more similar to in my opinion to Heavenly Daze (aka Glaze) especially if one hits Heavenly when it's a bit icy or packed ...

 

 

 

pete

post #44 of 59
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Another question. I know they have a first tracks program that costs $35 per person per day, or $180 for 6 tickets. Is it worth it to buy this for certain days?
post #45 of 59
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Another question. I know they have a first tracks program that costs $35 per person per day, or $180 for 6 tickets. Is it worth it to buy this for certain days?

It definitely is if you get a powder day and can be there early. We had a blast at our week in Steamboat this year and got a sleeper pow day and paid for first tracks. Had the mountain to ourselves for a couple hours, it was amazing and definitely worth it. We plan to go back, and if it snows I'd do it again. 

post #46 of 59
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Another question. I know they have a first tracks program that costs $35 per person per day, or $180 for 6 tickets. Is it worth it to buy this for certain days?

Its highly recommended if it works into your budget.  This is another way to beat the Christmas week crowds. Getting up early makes a big difference even on a nice sunny groomer day. I would wait on buying, last fall they did a half off deal.   Again, I do this with my visiting family that week.  You really get a solid hour plus of lapping sunshine/down this is especially true on a groomer day.  Its worth every penny IMHO.  

 

 

I have said this a few times but I think folks underestimate how much time it takes to herd up the kittens in the AM, between getting everyone up, hydrated, fed dressed appropriately, packed for the day and the venture to the mountain, into gear, tickets, lessons and then into the lift line can be arduous.  

 

Here's a few tips:

1- DONT SKI! Dont try to go ski the first day.  You will be tired and ill-prepared. It usually takes more of a toll on you than you think if you ski only a hand-full of days a season. You most likely have plenty of days ahead.

2- TAKE A TOUR OF THE AREA- Familiarize yourself with the base area.  Ticket area, gondi line, Christy chair, lessons office and meet-up area. Restaurants, rental shops, etc. 

3- RENTALS - Show an interest to the techs and that you want a proper fit (ask for a performance fit). By all means get your rentals done the day before you plan to ski! if possible go after 4. Most rentals are returned meaning a better selection.  When you rent, don't be in a rush, that usually results in bad decisions and poorly fitted- poorly tuned gear.  WEAR APPROPRIATE SKI- SNOWBOARD SOCKS!!!!!!  (that means one pair :D)   Check any skis for proper tune.  If you don't like it, ask them to tune it.  

5- HYDRATE- You really can't drink enough water---  GO BUY SOME INEXPENSIVE CAMELBACKS off Sierra trading post or someplace, I make all my family ski with one. 

6- PREP- Lay out clothes, gear and everything you need for a day of skiing the night before. Don't forget a very thin balaclava and sunscreen and lip balm. I never ski without them. 

7- MAKE A PLAN- Have a game plan for the next day.  Where you are going to ski, meet for lunch, where to go if you get separated;  The Steamboat Ski Patrol number is 970-871-5911.  Put it in everyone's cell phones.  Make sure kids know to go to the red jacket or yellow jacket steamboat patrol or Ambassadors for help. Your kids should have your contact info including your names phone, lodging etc.  Helped an injured 6 y/o last season who skied away from parents, didn't know parents cell #.  Not good.....

8- GO TO BED and GET UP EARLY. Get up earlier than you think you need to! You always need more time than you think; especially on the first day  


Edited by Finndog - 4/22/15 at 9:54am
post #47 of 59
Thread Starter 

When is the best time to book flights?  We're flying United from Newark.

post #48 of 59

When it's cheapest! ...  :ROTF

 

:dunno

post #49 of 59
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Originally Posted by snoloco View Post

When is the best time to book flights?  We're flying United from Newark.

If you are using miles ASAP. If not I would just keep checking every couple of weeks. IIRC they seem to dip a little in August but I wouldn't go by that. I fly back and forth frequently and rarely find the prices changing much especially for flights around Christmas and then into February and March. If you are flying for Christmas those flights sell out pretty fast. Iirc they go up for sale in May
post #50 of 59

We stayed at the Holiday Inn in Steamboat Last Christmas to NYE. My 16 yr old son  an 14 yr old daughter were given kids eat for free breakfast passes plus you can buy a 20 breakfast voucher for 10 bucks. Hotel was great, Rexs for breakfast and a few dinners was great. Hotel staff is wonderful (even gave us some free drink vouchers). You will be glad you stayed there.

post #51 of 59
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Originally Posted by snoloco View Post

Another question. I know they have a first tracks program that costs $35 per person per day, or $180 for 6 tickets. Is it worth it to buy this for certain days?

Last season Steamboat had a buy one get 1 free first tracks. Worked out great for me I bought 2 and got 2 free. I saved them for after a night it snowed. Worth every penny!! You could hold off on first track tickets to see if they have the sale again this year.  Edit, Just checked my old emails the sale was the first week of October last year.

 

Check out the MAX pass as well. The 16 yr old pass might save you money if you ski some of the east resorts as well.

 

We flew out of EWR last Christmas on Southwest to save some money on baggage fees. Southwest doesn't charge for the first 2 bags per ticket. Plus a ski bag and boot bag count as only 1 bag.


Edited by Bill9994 - 4/30/15 at 11:00am
post #52 of 59
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Last season Steamboat had a buy one get 1 free first tracks. Worked out great for me I bought 2 and got 2 free. I saved them for after a night it snowed. Worth every penny!! You could hold off on first track tickets to see if they have the sale again this year.  Edit, Just checked my old emails the sale was the first week of October last year.

 

Check out the MAX pass as well. The 16 yr old pass might save you money if you ski some of the east resorts as well.

 

We flew out of EWR last Christmas on Southwest to save some money on baggage fees. Southwest doesn't charge for the first 2 bags per ticket. Plus a ski bag and boot bag count as only 1 bag.

 

Yep, this was an unannounced sale that I made reference to.  There's no incentive to buy early so I would wait as @Bill9994 suggests. If any of see it, I'm sure  we'll certainly post it up.  Perhaps @tam can but I am not sure if she's allowed to.    I'm on the waiting list for the First tracks season pass.  

 

Just to clarify Southwest doens't fly to Hayden (HDN)  

post #53 of 59

True, Southwest doesn't fly to Hayden, only Denver. We rented a car in Denver to drive to Steamboat.

post #54 of 59

I wish I could give you better news.

During Christmas 2014, wife and I flew from Toronto to California to ski at

Mammoth, Heavenly, and Squaw Valley for 2 weeks.

 

All great resorts but there was very little snow and it was hardpacked or icy or hard crunchy.

 

Only 1/4 of the runs were open and the waiting times in lift lines were about 10 minutes.

 

The locals said that this was a slow start in 2014 but in general it has been deteriorating for 10 years now.

 

It really depends year to year but in general the best you can expect is okay snow and 1/2 the runs at best.

 

Honestly February is the best snow everywhere.

post #55 of 59
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Originally Posted by RobertWolf View Post
 

I wish I could give you better news.

During Christmas 2014, wife and I flew from Toronto to California to ski at

Mammoth, Heavenly, and Squaw Valley for 2 weeks.

 

All great resorts but there was very little snow and it was hardpacked or icy or hard crunchy.

 

Only 1/4 of the runs were open and the waiting times in lift lines were about 10 minutes.

 

The locals said that this was a slow start in 2014 but in general it has been deteriorating for 10 years now.

 

It really depends year to year but in general the best you can expect is okay snow and 1/2 the runs at best.

 

Honestly February is the best snow everywhere.


You may have missed that the OP's family decided on Steamboat.  In any case, they were not considering California.  That's not usually a destination recommended for Christmas vacation trips for people flying from the east coast.  For Canadians, Whistler may be a better choice.

post #56 of 59
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Part of why we chose Steamboat was because of their great early season record. Average 93% open by Christmas Day. I'm pretty sure with 93% open, that would have to include the runs off Pony, meaning that all lifts typically spin.
post #57 of 59
Thread Starter 

Saw something in this thread earlier saying that Republic wasn't running the Denver to HDN flights anymore.  I recently received an email from United saying that the aircraft was changed, and that the regional carrier was changed to Skywest.  Is that an improvement?

post #58 of 59
Depart:
1:15 p.m.
Sun., Dec. 13, 2015
Steamboat Springs, CO, US (HDN)
Arrive:
2:19 p.m.
Sun., Dec. 13, 2015
Denver, CO, US (DEN)
Flight Time:
1 hr 4 mn
Flight distance:
141 m/227 km
Flight:UA3879
Operated by Republic Airlines dba United Express.
Aircraft: Bombardier Q400
Fare Class: United Economy (L)
Meal: None
No Special Meal Offered.

 

Depart:
11:15 a.m.
Wed., Dec. 9, 2015
Denver, CO, US (DEN)
Arrive:
12:08 p.m.
Wed., Dec. 9, 2015
Steamboat Springs, CO, US (HDN)
Flight Time:
53 mn

Travel Time:

4 hr 45 mn
Flight distance:
141 m/227 km

Total Distance:

1,164 m/1,873 km
Flight: UA3871
Operated by Republic Airlines dba United Express.
Aircraft: Bombardier Q400
Fare Class: United Economy (S)
Meal: None
No Special Meal Offered.

No change for me at least as of today.

post #59 of 59
Yes, Skywest is generally better than Republic and one of the largest regional airlines.
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