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Just because its a "hip" gym does'nt mean its a great gym! Choose your trainers carefully!
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The Capati lawsuit has helped expose two health club secrets. The first is sometimes a certified personal trainer isn't certified. The second is there is no standard -- national, state or otherwise -- for what the word certified means.

Mmmm change a few words in this statement and it could apply to the ???? industry
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Tragic case because it was so senseless. This begs the question, how do you evaluate a trainer, and the advice they're giving you. I guess that's what makes the Epicski forums particularly valuble.
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I refer to this case quite often. One of the other unfortunate outcomes, was there is now a backlash in the industry that disallows us to comment on any aspects of nutrition or supplementation whatsoever, unless you are also a licensed nutritionist. Kind of sad, since we do have to know something about that stuff to pass our certification exams. But this is all the more reason that a trainer with an acceptble certification would know not to reccommend ephedra for a woman with high blood pressure, for goodness sakes! :

Anyway, now you know why I remain relatively silent about nutrition and supplementation.

There is yet another issue here. Quite often, people choose their trainers because they want to look like them. Although this was not the case in this incident, since it was a male training a female, many people feel that if they follow the excact exercise and nutrition program as their "idol" they will look as good. Not true. But given that ephedra products are often the "breakfast of fitness pros" , its easy to see how a pro who is able to keep a really low level of body fat due to use of an artificial substance will be able to serve as sort of a false inspiration to others. It is partially the industries fault. The New York City fitness scene always required an unreasonable thinness of its trainers. And in the boom boom years of the 80s, aerobics instructors were teaching about 4 high impact classes a day, while starving themselves to create an image.

Ever wonder how they did it?

I find it interesting that Bally's bought Crunch shortly after this happened. Bally's is known for having some pretty powerful lawyers and you really don't need to wonder why they need them.

Oz's implications bring up another question. Can a ski pro at a top resort be not a pro at all, but a fake?
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Are there various levels of certification to be a trainer, and how can you be sure the people you speak to at the gym are certified? Are trainers also licensed? Sorry if my questions are too elementary.

I'm sure at resorts there are instructors/ski pros with questionable training and backgrounds. I've certainly found a disparity, in what I judged to be competency, among resorts. The difference is with a ski instructor you can walk away and judge whether or not he/she was helpful for you. However in the gym, using weights, you run the risk of doing lasting damage if you get bad advice.
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Don't forget that ephedra was the 3rd character in this drama.

Ephedra is strong stuff, not to be taken lightly by anyone. The general public doesn't understand that many powerful drugs are made from "herbal" sources and not everything sold at the healthfood/vitamin store is good for you.

A quick fix shortcut in pill form is what they want and many companies are willing to sell to that demand. Most ephedra packaging is full of warnings about side effects and dosage limitations. Listening to your body is important also - a racing heart and sleepless nights should be a clue to stop taking the drug.
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Not elementary questions at all! At a bare minimum, a trainer should have a certification by either AFAA or ACE. Those whose interests lie in traditional weight training should be certified by National Strength and Conditioning Association {NSCA}
If you work with people with heart disease, you should have American Academy of Sports medicine.

IMHO, if you design programs for balance sports such as skiing, you really need National Academy of Sports Medicne.

How do you know what the trainers have? Ask the fitness director.
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Yeah, last year I joined one of those DEB's (that's Dungeons of Excruciating Boredom, aka "gyms") and got a free session with a trainer. I wanted to do some training for my shoulder amongst other things (long history of shoulder dislocations).
Whatever we ended up doing though was way too much, had my shoulders in pain with decreased mobility for several days. Trainer had a great body sure, but I don't think he did much other than workout at the gym. Gee that was great-maybe next time I'll try less of a "jock" trainer (had no choice then).
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Now that s**ks! Do a search on this forum for either rotator cuff, or spearated shoulder. I believe there I posted a few links to post rehab sites.

BTW, very few trainers are actually certified in post rehab, but many physical therapists are now entering the fitness industry. If you are recovering from an injury, ask if any of the trainers are also PTs. If not, ask if they have a post rehab cert. Another choice would be someone who has at least taken some courses in post rehab. Not everyone can afford the fees of a gazillion certifications. Pilates certified instructors usually know a good deal about the biomechanics of injuries.
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