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post #31 of 42

Those are both good skis but not as high level as I want even at my age.  Skied nothing but racing  skis for decades and really like the wide range of high end, non-racing skis available today.  The downside is there are a lot of them and it can be daunting to find the right ski for your skill level and where you ski.  Demoing skis is always the best way if you can.  I used to attend 3 day dealer demo events and once knew a lot more.  Now I try to narrow it down with criteria, demo if possible (usually not) and then take a chance.  No disappointments lately.

 

I push a ski pretty hard and use the Powertrack 89 predecessor, Outland 87, for soft snow and a new pair of Head Rallys for groomed and hard pack.  Mostly skied my new Heads since I encountered no powder this year and lots of hard snow.  Just the luck of the draw.

 

Bill

post #32 of 42
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Yes, at 175lbs a 173 would be plenty stable while still being short enough to be maneuverable. But you're pretty tall at 6'1" which says a 180 might be more you're size.. so it's hard to say. A 173 is over 10cm less than your height, which would look pretty awkward, but the 180 might get pretty tiring to flex at 175lbs towards the end of the day. If you can demo the 180 and don't find it too difficult to flex towards the end of the day or maneuver in the bumps, you could grow into it.

 

Thank you.Still agonizing over the Powertrack vs Brahma vs Latigo. I had my brother who is Level 9 look at the Latigos I bought (but can still return), and he felt they're similar in flex and dimensions to my 2003 Rossi Bandit XX. So I'm thinking maybe I should get something wider.

 

Very tough decision.


Edited by sithjedi333 - 4/6/15 at 5:52pm
post #33 of 42
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UPDATE:

 

I have gotten several pieces of feedback that the Brahma 180 may be too stiff for my weight, and it would seem strange for me to be on the 173 given my dimensions.

 

So I'm trying to decide between the Latigo (184 probably) vs the Powertrack 89 (179 probably) vs Brahma (180, most positive feedback is from big dudes, 6'2"+ and 200 lbs+). Again I'm a level 7, 6'1" (184 cm), 175 lbs.

 

Which would be better in the following conditions (in order of importance to me)? My impressions from what I've read so far below. Please set me straight if I'm off base.

 

1) Hard snow/ice groomers - 70% of the time but plan to transition to other types of terrain over time: Seems like Latigo (narrower), followed closely by the Brahma (stiffer), then Powertrack (bigger rocker, more flexy than Brahma) with probably a bigger gap in performance between the last two?

 

2) Bumps: Tie for Latigo (narrow but flexy)/Powertrack (wider/flexy), followed by the Brahma (wider/stiffer)?

 

3) Mixed crud: Brahma (stiff/wide), then Powertrack (wide but some comments the tips get deflected), then Latigo (narrow)?

 

4) Powder: Powertrack (wide and soft, larger rocker) then Brahma (wide but stiff) then Latigo (narrow/flexy), with a bigger gap between the last two?

 

Or, wait till fall and get the Head Monster 88!

 

Thank you.


Edited by sithjedi333 - 4/7/15 at 6:53am
post #34 of 42

As an east coast skier, the Latigo will be the ski for 80% of the conditions you encounter.

post #35 of 42
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UPDATE:

 

I have gotten several pieces of feedback that the 180 Brahma may be too stiff for my weight.

 

So I'm trying to decide between the Latigo (184 probably) vs the Powertrack 89 (179 probably). Again I'm a level 7, 6'1" (184 cm), 175 lbs.

 

Which would be better in the following conditions (in order of importance to me)?

 

1) Hard snow/ice groomers - 70% of the time: ???

 

2) Bumps: both have good reviews here

 

3) Mixed crud: ???

 

4) Powder: Powertrack probably better due to wider waist

 

Thank you. 

You are only 10-15 lbs. lighter than myself and 1" taller.  I love my 180 Brahma and if you are truly a level 7 it's no where near too stiff for you.  

I do however agree that the Latigo is a better "mostly groomer" ski though.

post #36 of 42
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Originally Posted by sithjedi333 View Post
 

UPDATE:

 

I have gotten several pieces of feedback that the 180 Brahma may be too stiff for my weight.

 

So I'm trying to decide between the Latigo (184 probably) vs the Powertrack 89 (179 probably). Again I'm a level 7, 6'1" (184 cm), 175 lbs.

 

Which would be better in the following conditions (in order of importance to me)?

 

1) Hard snow/ice groomers - 70% of the time: ???

 

2) Bumps: both have good reviews here

 

3) Mixed crud: ???

 

4) Powder: Powertrack probably better due to wider waist

 

Thank you. 

 

Not an expert by any means but I haven't had trouble flexing the Latigo (170cm) and I am much lighter, (5'9, 150lbs). Latigo so far has been great for your first three conditions, haven't had experience in powder except for 3-4" on top of groomed base.

post #37 of 42
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I ski in mostly the same area as you. I just bought the Latigo last month and have 10 days on them so far. I have them in 170cm and I am 5'9 150 pounds. I'm only around level 7 ability so my thoughts might not be suited for you. So far I've had a lot of fun with the latigo and haven't really run into any problems with them. They are great in the typical PA groomers and feel stable at speed as well. I demo'd the Brahma (173cm) as well before buying the latigo and while both skis were fun I liked the latigo more.

 

Thank you. Would you mind telling me more what you thought of the Brahma, and why it wasn't as good as the Latigo? Thanks.

post #38 of 42
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Thank you. Would you mind telling me more what you thought of the Brahma, and why it wasn't as good as the Latigo? Thanks.

 

I should mention that I tried the Brahma's (173) first and my first impression was it is a good ski. Tried the Latigo (170) afterwards and decided I liked it better. To me I had better control in the latigo compared to the Brahma's and turning is a joy in them. I was only able to do 5 runs in the Brahma's though in late-feb conditions (@ blue mountain).  In general I think I liked the narrower waist and softer flex. Of course I'm not a heavy guy (150 lbs) so take that into account as well.

 

Also since buying the Latigo I've done 10 days in them around the PA area (blue mtn, jfbb, camel), including 2 at mountain creek and had nothing but a blast. Hope this helps.

post #39 of 42
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I should mention that I tried the Brahma's (173) first and my first impression was it is a good ski. Tried the Latigo (170) afterwards and decided I liked it better. To me I had better control in the latigo compared to the Brahma's and turning is a joy in them. I was only able to do 5 runs in the Brahma's though in late-feb conditions (@ blue mountain).  In general I think I liked the narrower waist and softer flex. Of course I'm not a heavy guy (150 lbs) so take that into account as well.

 

Also since buying the Latigo I've done 10 days in them around the PA area (blue mtn, jfbb, camel), including 2 at mountain creek and had nothing but a blast. Hope this helps.

 

Thanks, that is really helpful. I ski at Mountain Creek too. My mind is telling really me to stick w the Latigo, but the Brahma's versatility is appealing as well since having a multi ski quiver doesn't make sense for me.

 

Interestingly, the Head Monster 88 reviews are describing it as a little less stiff and better in moguls than the Brahma (similar to Motive 86), which would be great. Great deals on skis right now though...

post #40 of 42
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Originally Posted by xjjon View Post

I should mention that I tried the Brahma's (173) first and my first impression was it is a good ski. Tried the Latigo (170) afterwards and decided I liked it better. To me I had better control in the latigo compared to the Brahma's and turning is a joy in them. I was only able to do 5 runs in the Brahma's though in late-feb conditions (@ blue mountain).  In general I think I liked the narrower waist and softer flex. Of course I'm not a heavy guy (150 lbs) so take that into account as well.

Also since buying the Latigo I've done 10 days in them around the PA area (blue mtn, jfbb, camel), including 2 at mountain creek and had nothing but a blast. Hope this helps.

You probably would have liked the Brahma in 166.
post #41 of 42
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After reading some more comments, I would put people in 3 buckets regarding the Brahma:

 

1) Really big guys, 6'2"+ and 200 lbs + love the Brahma (most of these guys in 180)

2) People who are skiing a  length at or above their height don't like the Brahma

3) Me being a relative middleweight at 175 lbs, but going for a 180cm when I'm 184cm, might be ok?

post #42 of 42

I'm 200 lb + and demoed the Brahma.   Wasn't a fan, actually, though Phil suggested that there may have been other factors, such as the tuning of the ski at play.  I did end up buying the Latigo, ultimately.   Late season run on that ski, just in time for the sales.   In addition to all the traits listed above, I think at 78 it makes a great place to build a quiver from.   Whooohooo, on to finding the next ski...:cool

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