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Full race helmet or Half helmet?

post #1 of 29
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Been off the slopes for more than a few years with a knee injury. But am venturing back next season. I'd always worn a full race helmet for protection (62 yo,adv intermediate 6'5", 230), but am looking at new helmets for comfort AND protection. I'm not a racer more of finesse technical skier. Does anyone wear a full race helmet anymore? I was looking at the POC COMP 2.0 full helmet versus the Smith Variance. Opinions? Thanx in advance.

post #2 of 29
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Originally Posted by bluedog View Post
 

Been off the slopes for more than a few years with a knee injury. But am venturing back next season. I'd always worn a full race helmet for protection (62 yo,adv intermediate 6'5", 230), but am looking at new helmets for comfort AND protection. I'm not a racer more of finesse technical skier. Does anyone wear a full race helmet anymore? I was looking at the POC COMP 2.0 full helmet versus the Smith Variance. Opinions? Thanx in advance.

If racing isn't a concern, I'd find one that fits comfortably, has vents that open and close and has a removable liner.  Comfort is king and the ability to keep it clean is part of comfort.

post #3 of 29

I have tried a lesser helmet (Giro G10) rather than a full helmet, my neck was cold and that was before Thanksgiving years ago. Never wore that helmet again. I enjoy my POC skull X

post #4 of 29

Suggest a search. Several threads on this. If a topic term doesn't work, try Richie Rich as the thread author. 

post #5 of 29

If you choose a nice POC race unit, I suggest you NOT wear it inside the lodge at Red Lodge.

post #6 of 29

I only wear a full face when sled skiing.  I wish my son did too.  He jumped a cornice, let off the throttle and augured in. 

Munched the front of the sled, broke his nose and somehow I get to pay for everything.

post #7 of 29

Full face or full race?

 

I guess I would need to see the data to answer that question properly.  I got a $50 Costco helmet (Bolle) that fit and had vents that I could open or close (not inserts to loose), but I was happy with a touque or fir hat (depending on temps) for many decades.

post #8 of 29
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
 

Suggest a search. Several threads on this. If a topic term doesn't work, try Richie Rich as the thread author. 


Yea, I'd read a few of Richies posts but all dealt with full face helmets versus full helmets minus the "face". Curious to know if there are others here that use the full helmet exclusively, especially the POC Skull Comp 2.0 helmet.

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GZZU63K/ref=pe_385040_128020140_TE_3p_dp_1

 

I'm still debating whether to go full helmet or half helmet. Thanx for the input.

post #9 of 29
I use a full helmet.
post #10 of 29
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I use a full helmet.


Thanx for your input. Anyone else? Any way to do a poll on this?

post #11 of 29

Race helmets are somewhat warmer but there isn't any ventilation so they can be pretty uncomfortable on a warm day.  Don't buy any helmet, especially a POC without trying it on.  I can wear just about any company's ski helmet except POC.  I spent 20 minutes at their booth at the industry demos trying to find one that fit and was comfortable,  Apparently for me, I can only get either comfort or fit but not both and I've heard this from several other people as well.

post #12 of 29
I have a full helmet just for the added protection, haven't found a temperature issue at all. Some brands fit my head, some don't.
post #13 of 29
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Originally Posted by bluedog View Post
 

I was looking at the POC COMP 2.0 

I missed this part, thought you meant "full face." Anyway, I use the Comp 2. Very solid, nice QC, I believe the foam (MPP) is significant. But IMO the only reason for wearing a full (side covered) helmet is a) FIS says you have to, or b) you ski in higher risk terrain (trees, rocky chutes, gates) where you have greater chance of being whacked from the side in a fall or are traveling at serious speed. For ordinary rec skiing, no real point. I only use it because I gave up trying to support two helmets when my old non-side protection Sweet Rooster died of old age. 

 

Oh, and I don't run hot like some. If I get warm hiking, I just take my helmet off. But it has no vents, obviously, so...

post #14 of 29
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Seems from the responses so far that most are using the full helmet versus 3/4.

post #15 of 29

My experience at several ski areas is that very few people are wearing race helmets, except people who are obviously racing.  We have quite a few racers, high school, college and masters coming into our shop and I know quite a few of the masters racers.  They all have two helmets and only wear the race helmet on days when they're racing.

post #16 of 29

I have always worn a full helmet, have been since the early 1990's. My ears get cold when it's in the 40's F. I also find that some helmet's fit better then others.

 

 

If you want the extra protection then the race helmet is a good idea. You only get one head.

post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I use a full helmet.


Thanx for your input. Anyone else? Any way to do a poll on this?

what difference does it make what most people do? Comfort vs added protection. You have to decide that for yourself--not take a poll.

post #18 of 29
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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
 

what difference does it make what most people do? Comfort vs added protection. You have to decide that for yourself--not take a poll.


Not a poll on popularity. More an attempt to garner why folks make the decision of one over the other. Full helmet too hot? 3/4 helmet more comfortable? Previous poster mentioned ability to add audio. 3/4 lighter?Cooler? Protection is always a factor with new studies on concussions and permanent brain injuries. Anyone been in a wreck with a 3/4 and wish they'd gone full? Folks feeling perfectly safe in a 3/4 and happy with the decision from a safety factor? 

 

Been off the slopes for five years with knee issues, and just curious what drives the decisions. Don't want to drop a few Franklins on a new helmet and wish I'd gone the other route. Just asking... no harm no foul...

post #19 of 29
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Five ski related deaths in NE this season due to head trauma... three in the last week

post #20 of 29
Were any of them wearing helmets?
post #21 of 29
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Were any of them wearing helmets?


Latest death I believe was at Wildcat... skier was wearing a helmet. Newspaper article in Boston Globe didn't mention if others were wearing helmets or not.

post #22 of 29
One of the problems with helmets is that many people do not wear them correctly. I see people with them pushed back on their head, little kids wearing helmets that are huge, people skiing with the strap either not buckled or buckled so loosely they can get injured from secondary impact. I once read an article that said secondary impact was the major cause of head trauma in skiing, for those wearing helmets. Of course, if the impact is at the base of the skull, I'm not sure any helmet provides enough protection.

But, without knowing all the particulars of those deaths, nobody can draw any conclusions about which type of helmet to wear or even whether to wear a helmet. I wear one, a Smith Variant, and will continue to do so because it probably saved me from getting a concussion when I was attempting to learn to snowboard(I quit trying after that) and it's warmer than any ski hat I ever owned.

My advice is go to a ski shop and try some on and buy the one that fits best, whether race or not. You're overthinking this. If you're racing, you need the face guard and you can't attach those to a non-race helmet, so buy a race helmet. If you're not racing just get the one that's most comfortable.
Edited by mtcyclist - 3/28/15 at 8:22pm
post #23 of 29
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Thanx for the input. Unfortunately I've got a big squash, and haven't found anything on the shop shelves that will fit this 64 cm head. I'm forced to buy online and try them on after purchase. I ordered the Variant, the Variance, and the Sequel in XL last week and hopefully will be there when I get home from AZ. I've also got a POC Comp 2.0 on order as well. I'll give them all a try and return the others. It's pricey returning the items but when your my size (6'5", 235) you get used to buying things online.

post #24 of 29

I always thought Smith made the most comfortable helmets, for my head anyway, until I tried on a Salomon Air Ranger a couple of years ago.  Best fit I've ever experienced from a helmet.  This next season I'm retiring my Smith and getting a Salomon helmet with custom air fit, can't recall which model exactly.  You might want to look into the Salomon helmets as well.

post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

I always thought Smith made the most comfortable helmets, for my head anyway, until I tried on a Salomon Air Ranger a couple of years ago.  Best fit I've ever experienced from a helmet.  This next season I'm retiring my Smith and getting a Salomon helmet with custom air fit, can't recall which model exactly.  You might want to look into the Salomon helmets as well.


Unfortunately the largest size offered in the Salomon is a 62 cm. I'll need a 64. Thanx for the input though....

post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by bluedog View Post
 


Unfortunately the largest size offered in the Salomon is a 62 cm. I'll need a 64. Thanx for the input though....

 

Wow.   That's gonna be tough, that's outside the range of some XXLs

post #27 of 29
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Wow.   That's gonna be tough, that's outside the range of some XXLs


Just tried on the largest POC full helmet size XL-XXL which is a 59-62 cm... not gonna cut it unfortunately.

 

The Smith Variance covers the 63-67 cm range in their XL size... unless I can find a 67 in a full helmet size it looks like the Variance is the baby. Nice looking helmet BTW.

post #28 of 29
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Ventured into Summit ski shop here in Mass to see what they had in stock for large melons. Tried on all the Smith helmets. Most come in an XL (63-67).  Actually found the Smith Aspect fit better than the Variance. Could be the result of less padding in the Aspect. It gets my vote.

post #29 of 29

+1 on the Smith Aspect XL.

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